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MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: JamesBanditVV on May 30, 2007, 07:25:30 PM

Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on May 30, 2007, 07:25:30 PM
Hey Guys, i was reading a few old posts and have been wondering before but ive seen people say theyve been over 100mph on theres??? Now i used to reach 100mph just before the engine toped out but with a 160/60 tyre on i get a lil bit less, but my main concern is it will only rev up to about 11,500-11,700 and thats it in every gear. i was wondering if anybody elses did this or just mine. people have mentioned they get 12,500  :shock: , i want that extra 1000 lol can anyone exsplain?? cheers
Title: Re: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: El Dopa on May 31, 2007, 01:44:59 AM
Quote from: "JamesBanditVV"
Hey Guys, i was reading a few old posts and have been wondering before but ive seen people say theyve been over 100mph on theres??? Now i used to reach 100mph just before the engine toped out but with a 160/60 tyre on i get a lil bit less, but my main concern is it will only rev up to about 11,500-11,700 and thats it in every gear. i was wondering if anybody elses did this or just mine. people have mentioned they get 12,500  :shock: , i want that extra 1000 lol can anyone exsplain?? cheers


Is yours the 2nd generation 'V'?

My 1st Gen will (relatively) comfortably go over 12.  From memory I can get about 14-15 before she starts to struggle.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on May 31, 2007, 03:50:20 AM
No its a 1st Gen, 1992 Japanese import model. could it be the carbs not supllying enough fuel to get the revs higher?? or is it just a profile of the cams? or does it have a rev limiter that could be permenantly stuck on? any help appretiated cheers guys
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: El Dopa on May 31, 2007, 05:03:24 AM
Quote from: "JamesBanditVV"
No its a 1st Gen, 1992 Japanese import model. could it be the carbs not supllying enough fuel to get the revs higher?? or is it just a profile of the cams? or does it have a rev limiter that could be permenantly stuck on? any help appretiated cheers guys


Hmmm. Almost exactly the same bike as mine, then.

Clip-ons?

I might have to take mine out for a blat. Just to confirm my earlier comment.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on May 31, 2007, 05:10:32 AM
Jap imports were restricted is the problem you have i think. And the only way at the moment for it to be derestricted is to buy a m-max derestrictor  or similar.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on May 31, 2007, 05:56:27 PM
Yer it has clip ons, and would a UK spec CDI Solve the problem, ive seen a few quite cheap??
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on May 31, 2007, 05:58:16 PM
I cant say if a uk spec cdi will solve your problem.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on June 02, 2007, 09:22:54 AM
I dont know if i remember correctly but wasnt there a thing mentioned about being able to change a few wires on the CDi to deristrict them (a bypass)???? cheers for everyhitng so far
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on June 02, 2007, 11:18:59 AM
I thought i'd found a way to disconnect the gear sensor wire and take it to earth to make it more powerful in the higher gears but now after more testing and the purchase of an m-max derestrictor box ive still got a rev limitier at 13800ish rpm and its not fuel as my jetting is spot on.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on June 02, 2007, 01:33:25 PM
:shock:  i would love to hear 13800 from mine lol. and for £50 plus p+p for the m-max you cant go wrong if you get that outta it. did you mean you got 13800 earthing the wire off or after you bought the box?
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on June 03, 2007, 05:43:35 AM
I got 13800 before either one of those. It revved to 13800 before anything i was trying to get it to 15000
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on June 03, 2007, 07:31:11 PM
does anyone have a few pictures or some info or diagram on the wires to try and earth out my switch??? i have a wiring diagram so if anyone could tell me what to do with what wire it would be appretiated, cheers guys
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: gsxr400 racer on June 03, 2007, 07:34:18 PM
where does the mmax hook to? i thought it just got rid of the speed restriction not the rev limit i have to cdi progressors from japan that are supposed to do this.  or find a 2 wire cdi and the harness mine revs to 15000 rpm 15500 to be exact. I want $35 pounds posted for either one
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on June 04, 2007, 07:10:22 AM
i think its just plugs into your cdi, then your origional plug that used to go into the cdi plugs into the m-max (i think). if there limited to 111mph ten mine wont even be touching the limiter as it doesn't reach that, but with the extra revs that im after i thnk it would. and on the m-max site it says that it lets the engine rev al the way through the redline, wich mine doesnt even reach at the moment lol
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on June 04, 2007, 07:15:15 AM
m-max plugs to the cdi and then the original cdi wires plug into the other side of the m-max. Ive got a new cdi coming which is supposedly one which allows revving to the redline so im going to try that next. But my bike definately pulls over 110mph at the moment with the m-max installed it didnt do that before. But my bike wont rev to the redline maybe my jettings out but when ive done plug chops it looks perfect.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on June 04, 2007, 01:50:39 PM
Could you let me know on this post how it goes please, and if it works what is te cdi part number cheers
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on June 06, 2007, 10:53:10 AM
well this new cdi i got which was 1 a 10d30 does not work its bust. So im sending it back to where it came from. But i can confirm that the m-max box does remove the power limiter in 5th and 6th gears. As before i had the m-max on it would stuggle to get above 100mph in 5th or 6th. Now it'll pull easily to 115mph uphill i havent had a piece of road long enough to test it yet as i live in the countryside and the roads round here are crap loads of twisties which is great for the b4.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on June 06, 2007, 03:47:51 PM
Just to add to the fun i have just been reading the manual on testing the CDI apparently it has a limiter built in at the factory at 13500rpm+ or - 50rpm But from what i can tell ive got an american manual not a japanese one so cant be sure. JAmes as your bandit is a vv it might be that your vv unit is not working properly so your only running on 8 valves which would stop you revving.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: JamesBanditVV on June 06, 2007, 05:48:11 PM
i have previously checked the operation by removing the side caps and watching the cams twist, so they are operating. i will get a m-max and see what happens but money is tight at the min so will just have to put up with my 11800 lol cheers though  :grin:  by the way is yours the NON VV model???
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: gsxr400 racer on June 06, 2007, 11:08:05 PM
Quote from: "JamesBanditVV"
i have previously checked the operation by removing the side caps and watching the cams twist, so they are operating. i will get a m-max and see what happens but money is tight at the min so will just have to put up with my 11800 lol cheers though  :grin:  by the way is yours the NON VV model???


I have 2 of these box's not m-max but still the same one is new one is used . whats a new m-max cost? I'll sell you the mew one for half that plus shipping.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on June 07, 2007, 05:17:01 AM
My bike is a non vv. And watch out jay are you sure they fit the vv? Cause as you know the vv cdi has a different plug on it.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on June 07, 2007, 05:17:31 AM
And a new m-max box would be about $80
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: Banditmax on June 07, 2007, 05:23:13 AM
Can i buy the used derestrictor jay? if its for the 3 wire model that is.
Title: Is It Just Mine??
Post by: gsxr400 racer on June 07, 2007, 11:28:52 AM
ok well hows $50.00 shipped and it is for the dual plug cdi box with three wires not the single plug cdi .