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MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: LosAngelesRyder on September 19, 2007, 04:04:02 AM
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Hello fellow bandit owners, I have a lot of questions about my new bike (first time bandit owner and long time rider). I'm looking to get the most amount of power and handling out of my bike (I chose the bandit because of my size). I want to use the bike as an every day rider and part time canyon/track bike. I'm located here in Eagle Rock aka Glendale area so if any of you are close and want to meet up that would be great. Ok back to the task at hand. I am already planning on the 442 kit and my goal is 75-80hp, but I don't know what is the best set up for this bike. I love the bike so I don't mind throwing money at it, but I do need reliability and the most bang for my buck. What is a good gear ratio to get my bike to around 6500 rpm at 80mph? I want to get a muffler for it but I don't want too loud, but a nice howl (if that makes any sense lol, I love the sound it makes but I just want it a tad louder), I don't mind cutting and welding but is there a full exhaust out there for this bike? When I go to do the 442 kit what carbs, pods, exhaust, tuning set up should I use. I'm trying to do it all at once so I wont have to keep tuning and to get max power. Is there any fairing/dash that will work on the bike with minor fab? Is a 91 cal bike restricted? I cant seem to find the wires to cut on my cdi because the colors are different then what is said to cut. Why does my bike sometimes not want to rev at freeway speeds just bogs out (carbs just cleaned twice still no effect, also new plugs, rect/reg, and battery, but the bike does rev and run a little better with no air filter). I'm not sure what jets are in it but it does like higher altitude at low speeds (ie in the mountains). Also what gearing will take the bike up to about 140-150mph with the mods listed? Ive also read that you can swap a gixxer 750 front end but what is the best year? I have alot more questions but I think this is good for now. Any and all answers/replies would be appreciated.
Johnny
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Also how to I post a pic of my bike on here? Sorry I'm also new to forums. I hated forums until I found banitalley. Thanks stormi and everyone that makes this forum possible.
Johnny
Nevermind, figured out how.
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Just a few notes here for ya,
1/ 75 to 80 reliable HP is a pipe dream, Crack pipe
2/ if thats how much HP you need get a 600
3/ Top speed is about 130 for a very healthy 400, the stock US versions 112 is relistic, 150 is once again a pipe dream
4/ Suspension upgrade are very easy and worth while doing, alot of older GSXR part will bolt right on.
5/ Your bike isn't restricted other than the 32 mm carbs, all others came with 33 mm
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Just a few notes here for ya,
1/ 75 to 80 reliable HP is a pipe dream, Crack pipe
2/ if thats how much HP you need get a 600
3/ Top speed is about 130 for a very healthy 400, the stock US versions 112 is realistic, 150 is once again a pipe dream
4/ Suspension upgrade are very easy and worth while doing, alot of older GSXR part will bolt right on.
5/ Your bike isn't restricted other than the 32 mm carbs, all others came with 33 mm
:lol: since i just got up i wont comment on this yet :shock:
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Not a very nice way to welcome a new guy. I wasn't sure what this bike was capable of. But thanks for the reply anyway. I guess thats how you treat new guys around here huh?
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Not a very nice way to welcome a new guy. I wasn't sure what this bike was capable of. But thanks for the reply anyway. I guess thats how you treat new guys around here huh?
just tell theif to :stfu: mate and go shoot some poor helpless animal :bomb: as for posting pic's go to photo bucket or image shack host your pic their and then copy and paste it in between these (http://)
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Just a few notes here for ya,
1/ 75 to 80 reliable HP is a pipe dream, Crack pipe
2/ if thats how much HP you need get a 600
3/ Top speed is about 130 for a very healthy 400, the stock US versions 112 is relistic, 150 is once again a pipe dream
4/ Suspension upgrade are very easy and worth while doing, alot of older GSXR part will bolt right on.
5/ Your bike isn't restricted other than the 32 mm carbs, all others came with 33 mm
Then what is realistic then? And other then my bike bogging out (probably running too rich) its only got 14k on it. With that what is a good gear ratio to use. Something like 14/44? Or will that not be not enough? Will the gixxer 400 carbs work? I read on ebay uk that they are 33. But then again thats what a read on fleabay.
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Not a very nice way to welcome a new guy. I wasn't sure what this bike was capable of. But thanks for the reply anyway. I guess thats how you treat new guys around here huh?
just tell theif to :stfu: mate and go shoot some poor helpless animal :bomb: as for posting pic's go to photo bucket or image shack host your pic their and then copy and paste it in between these (http://)
Thanks.
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GSXR400 Racer do you possibly know some of the other answers to my questions?
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70-80 is not out of the question but truely what proof do i have in regards to thief since i dont have a dyno print out to prove my theory. A good running stock bike ive seen 57 i have had 63 slightly modded before the 442 kit. i beleive but could be wrong you want 1993 + b4 carbs 33mm and 1989 sp gsxr 400 carbs 33 mm hard to find. the gsxr carbs dont run a plug in the pilot jet so hard to say which is better to me less parts are better. As for the gearing do a search on here to see what others run as i only race and really only use 14-15; 47
cheers hope that helps
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Thanks for the info GSXR400, I gotta run. Ill be back on in a couple of hours.
Johnny
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as for a pipe they come up from time to time on ebay or i can get one from japan but they are pricey sometimes but usually in alot better shape than most here as they are still making pipe over there.
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Thanks for the info GSXR400, I gotta run. Ill be back on in a couple of hours.
Johnny
No problem , I'll be at school working on my higher edgamacation lol . I dont know what is wrong with theif it must be getting cold up there or he lost all his arrows in the grass. :wink:
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:welcome: Welcome to the site LosAngelesRyder. This is a very good resource site for ALL sizes of Bandits.
I'm sure that Thief was just trying to answer your questions in a straight ahead manner. Sometimes typed words can come across somewhat blunt...
I would suggest you spend some time in the FAQ section, and do some searches by keywords. There are lots of opinions/suggestions to many of your questions.
The 400 guys will have lots of specific ideas for you, but you may want to read this recent thread for general suggestions on how to make horsepower.
http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=9204&start=30&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
:congrats: Congrats on getting the little Bandit, and again, welcome to the site. We will all be interested in hearing how your search for additional power goes. Keep us up to date.
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Thanks again GSXR and to you pmackie
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Just a few notes here for ya,
1/ 75 to 80 reliable HP is a pipe dream, Crack pipe
2/ if thats how much HP you need get a 600
3/ Top speed is about 130 for a very healthy 400, the stock US versions 112 is realistic, 150 is once again a pipe dream
4/ Suspension upgrade are very easy and worth while doing, alot of older GSXR part will bolt right on.
5/ Your bike isn't restricted other than the 32 mm carbs, all others came with 33 mm
:lol: since i just got up i wont comment on this yet :shock:
Thought I was being nice !!!!!! you should see me when I'm grumpy LMFAO
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Welcome, dude.
The pipe is the hard-to-come-by piece. Good luck to you!
BTW, just to clarify - all US B4s, all years, got the 32mm carbs.
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BTW, just to clarify - all US B4s, all years, got the 32mm carbs.
My big fat bad mate pitter is correct need to find a none US model
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Agreed Jay... mine has 33mm carbs... :bigok:
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It sounds like we are much alike LA Ryder.Im also a long time rider who always wanted a B4 but just recently bought mine.Heres my input after 8 straight months of riding and modifiying my B4, which I bought nearly bone-stock in Feb.
Gearing......getting 6500 rpms at 80mph is gonna put you at a serious disadvantage when accelerating.I added one tooth up front and dropped one in the back (equivelant to dropping 4 teeth out back) and Im still running 8000 rpms at 80mph.It didnt really affect my acceleration but 1st gear is actually usable now and Im not screaming on the highway.But,I must downshift a couple gears when passing or trying to speed up.....its just a fact of life with a high strung little 400,youll just bog and go nowhere if you "roll on throttle".You must gets revs up to make things happen.
Tuning......B4's are tuned quite badly from the factory.A hot thermostat is a good place to start,it will get the engine up to a usable temp and make tuning easier.The early water cooler Suzuki engines ran notoriously cool and it makes them cranky when lean.Running better at higher altitudes sounds like lean tuning,which is pretty common.After installing the recommended thermostat and a FactoryPro jet kit,my B4 runs like a champ in all conditions and its MUCH more fun, having no dips or bumps in the power.Both mods are easy/cheap and have been covered MANY times before,so a little searching will net you the needed info.
Pipe......I didnt like the loud,harsh nature of the Yosh pipe that came on my B4.I easily adapted a late model ZX-6 high midpipe to my B4 with just one weld,and then I stole the Hindle Stealth muffler off my FZR1000.The tone is awesome and the amplitude is exactly proportional to the throttle input. If I want to stay quiet,I stay out of the throttle....but when Im into it and the revs climb,she screams.
Suspension......I just finished dialing in my suspension the other day,and its just awesome.Taught suspension and a tucked riding position have their downsides,but I bought this bike for the exact same reason you stated....for short distance,aggresive canyon riding and track use.The 90's GSX-R front suspension is an easy swap and fully adjustable.I used an 07' GSX-R 750 rear shock that is nearly a bolt on.I had my spring sag set the other day and now its even better than before.Brakes are just RIDICULOUS......the 6 piston dual fronts will, with one finger,haul this little bike down from triple digits like hitting a brick wall! On a track,you could probably late brake anything out there.There are lots of tire choices out there,and an SV650 rear wheel will allow a 160 tire in back,if your inclined to go wide with the rubber.I did that mod,along with a GSX-R400 rear swingarm a couple weeks ago.Still gotta get the pics of that up.....
It wasnt cheap in the long run,Im sure I spent more than the cost of the bike.But spread out over time made it easier,and bargain shopping for used Ebay stuff helped save money.For the big ticket items like tires and my new Scotts damper,I whipped out the ol' plastic! :grin:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/rentalguy/DSC02715.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/rentalguy/DSC02713.jpg)
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I love your bike and thank you very much for your input turbofb. With the extra power from the motor i don't think it would become unusable with 1 up in the front and 2 in the rear. I'm thinking about using the gsxr 400 swing arm and sv wheel thanks to you lol. How hard was the swinger and shock install? What needed to be modded? What about the carbs from a gsxr400 would they be worth the trouble?
On another note, today was a weird day. The bike totaly quit on me, come to find out because of bad gas. But the night was good, after I got her running with an interesting mod to the air box she ran perfect. I went riding with some guys and the bike by my speedo toped out at about 115 but a guy that was riding a cbr with a digital speedo unmodded bike said we were doing 120-125 and i was keeping up with them. Mind you my bike has only 14k well maintained miles so it's in great running condition other than minor things. I does sound like it could use a valve adjust but that will happen when i get the motor done. I don't think I will ever get rid of this bike its so versatile.
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having a calibrated digital speedo as well as the normal speedo i can tell you the 115 mph is really 105 mph.
just because a bike (like the cbr) has a digital speedo doesnt mean its more accurate :stickpoke:
for easy power just get a different pipe, Jay's big-bore kit and a factory pro jet set. that alreaddy gives alot more power.
or dont get the factory pro set, but buy a set of flatslide carbs for some more power :motorsmile:
and with just the bigbore kit and a yosh pipe using a 15/47 gear ratio is no problem at all!!
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whats the difference between my carbs and flat side carbs?
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read this link about flatslides (http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=9439)
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ok now I understand thanks gsxr. What fcr's should i use for the power i'm looking for?
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Dont push the valve adjust off for too long.Theres no use in burning valves,even if your gonna overhaul the engine.Our little high revvin' engines need regular valve maintenence.Mine also had 15K on it and it needed the valves done when I cracked her open.Its not too hard to do,especially compared to doing the 20 shim-under-bucket valves of my FZR1000.
The swingarm bolts right up to the bike,although they arent the most common items around,you have to source one from Japan.....Jay got me mine.The swingarm has to have a tab welded on for the rear brake strut and there are other,minor issues that have to be adressed,like axle and adjuster selection,chain length and suspension readjustment.Its nothing extravegant,just fine tuning,a little parts bin rummaging and massaging parts into place where they were never intended to be.
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Just a few notes here for ya,
1/ 75 to 80 reliable HP is a pipe dream, Crack pipe
2/ if thats how much HP you need get a 600
3/ Top speed is about 130 for a very healthy 400, the stock US versions 112 is realistic, 150 is once again a pipe dream
4/ Suspension upgrade are very easy and worth while doing, alot of older GSXR part will bolt right on.
5/ Your bike isn't restricted other than the 32 mm carbs, all others came with 33 mm
:lol: since i just got up i wont comment on this yet :shock:
Thought I was being nice !!!!!! you should see me when I'm grumpy LMFAO
i thought thief was being fine towards you, and you just got a bit pissed off cos he said your ideas werent doable, but to be honest if you want 80hp why didnt you just buy a 600?
you can get pipes from www.banditmania.co.uk, they have road legal and race cans so if you dont want it too loud get a legal one with the removable bung in it or whatever.
they have some other nice stuff as well as pipes
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Forde, no where did i find headers for the b4 on that site but i did find cans for the 250/400 fairly cheap
BIKE STAINLESS POWDERCOAT 2xPOWDERCOAT CARBON TITANIUM COL. TITANIUM
250 £155 £185 £200 £200 £225 £260
400 £155 £185 £200 £200 £225 £260
and your link has a comma after it needs to be removed to work right.
cheers
Jay
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my answer to that question is relatively simple. Because of the bandits size. As I stated in the original post. But thanks for the info.
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there are people that like smaller bikes but like to get all the power they can. :shock: :motorsmile:
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Like me!!!! :lol:
:motorsmile:
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Forde, no where did i find headers for the b4 on that site but i did find cans for the 250/400 fairly cheap
Jay
hmm, i dunno if this is any help but my bike came with a full ART stainless system on it when i bought it. i dont know if you can still get them but it may be worth checking out.
systems seem to appear pretty often on ebay and theres always okshon. german ebay is worth watchin too.
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Just got my custom exhaust on it. Sounds great and fixed the running rich prob. Kinda sounds like a moto gp bike crossed with a formula one car lol (but its a little louder then I wanted but not too loud). 520 conversion with 3 down in the rear, pods, and jet kit should be on next week. In two to three weeks the suspension setup should be finished and in about a month or so the fairing should be in place. Thanks for your help guys and GSXR400 Racer I should be getting ahold of you soon after everything else is done for the big bore kit. She is soon gonna be the bike I've always dreamed of. When she is finished I'll take some pics and vids. Oh by the way I read somewhere on this forum you can use an intake cam to replace the exhaust cam for more power, is this true? Because the shop I have doing the work said that they have one that they will give me from a bad motor they just took in.
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2 board members say yes one says no your choice?
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I take it yes as in the pics and vids right?
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2 board members say yes one says no your choice?
on the cams mate sorry
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Oh yea sorry I forgot that I asked that question lol, what do you think GSXR?
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Well i say yes since im one of the ones that ran it first i liked it but had other issues , the other board member like it and one says its faster with out so with out proper tunning and a dyno chart to prove any claims its up to you if you have the money to try it dyno it and change it back if its no good. :motorsmile:
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what other issues? is it direct bolt in?
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i had blown a head gasket and had a ton of issues all last year im sure there is a story about it on here some where so i wont get into it to much . so i took the cams out and went back to stock to eliminate some variables, but i had liked it when it was in and raced on it.
cheers
jay
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ok thanks godda run.
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Should have the pods and jet kit on this week also the 520 conversion with 1 up in front and 2 down in the rear. I'll keep you guys posted and thanks for the comments and suggestions. Also if anybody is looking for a trick fairing kit try the airtech gs500e top fairing kit. Im going with the race kit with no holes the installing two projector lights with hid. Obviously the race kit has no holes so i will have to cut them. But the street kit retains the stock headlight. I would love to use the side fairing kit but I dont think it would be wide enough. Does anybody here in so cal know where I can find a good aluminum fabricator to make me a aluminum frame for the bandit?
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Does anybody here in so cal know where I can find a good aluminum fabricator to make me a aluminum frame for the bandit?
that would be a gsxr 400 frame mate :stickpoke:
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too much of a hassle, I might as well buy a gsxr lol
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And yet getting a whole new frame made isn't a hassle? I missed something... :stickpoke: :lol:
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Update everyone.
4 tooth down on rear installed with new x-ring chain
Result is 8000rpm at 80 before the bike was at 8500rpm
Vance and Hines slip on, Pods, 117.5 jet, the clip is on the top of the needle (it was too rich with the needle any where else), 2.5 turns out. Runs good but need to get it dyno'd, Its very touchy on the jetting with the pods (it was a pain to get it right). It does make an awesome sound though with the pods and exhaust.
After the 442 kit I will get it dyno tuned and go 1 up on the front sprocket.
One thing I can say is that 1st gear is so much more usable. The bike will still pull in 6th at 4000rpm, doesn't feel over geared at all, just had to change my shift habits a little.
All in all she is getting there, just need swinger/shock, gsx-r 750 front end, airtech (race) top fairing from the gs500 titan kit, HID projector headlights, seat cowl, 442cc kit, exhaust cam, strip down and repaint. Thanks again everyone for all your help and comments. I know I'm investing about $3000 into this bike (I paid 1500 for her with 13k on the clock by the way), some of you may ask why didn't I just buy a 600, and there is a simple answer to that question. I am short and the bandit fits me like a glove.
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Good on ya brother. I'm a short fella with grandios plans for my bike in the future. I'm jealous and only wish I had the funds to do what you are doing but I'm taking steps to ensure I can in the near future.
I may in fact be in touch with you to see what you did point form list type if only to catch up. Good on ya man keep 'er going!!!
Cheers,
Jody
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All in all she is getting there, just need ......., exhaust cam, .....
why do you want an exhaust cam?
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I feel the same way about the gearing,it was almost unusable in the stock ratio.I cant get my head around why they made it so damn low.....except maybe to satisfy people who dont know how to ride!?
Sounds like your coming right along,good work.And dont sweat the cost,its all for fun and to satisfy that need to tinker,right? Or else we'd just blow the $$ on brandnew bikes and all be the same!Ive spent a similar amount on my bike,both initial cost and mods,and I couldnt be happier.....despite the fact that Im 6'2" and the Bandit feels like a scooter compared to my big bikes. :bandit:
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My bike on standard cogs does run 8000rpm at 80mph in sixth
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Good on ya brother. I'm a short fella with grandios plans for my bike in the future. I'm jealous and only wish I had the funds to do what you are doing but I'm taking steps to ensure I can in the near future.
I may in fact be in touch with you to see what you did point form list type if only to catch up. Good on ya man keep 'er going!!!
Cheers,
Jody
I work 10 hrs a day 7 days a week, thats how I afford the things I do lol. Yea just pm with questions.
Johnny
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My bike on standard cogs does run 8000rpm at 80mph in sixth
Possibly because you have a non us bike. I'm not sure. But I can tell you the 91-92 has a 47 stock rear tooth and the 93 has a 46 rear tooth. So depending on your year and the fact that its not a US model may have something to do with that. And not everybody's speedo is the same (as in not accurate, not that I'm saying my is, but its all I have to go off of). BTW I'm at stock front tooth (for now) and 43 in the rear.
Johnny
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All in all she is getting there, just need ......., exhaust cam, .....
why do you want an exhaust cam?
Well what I meant by that is swapping out the exhaust cam for a intake cam, so I will have two intake cams. It supposedly has a higher lift and longer duration (don't quote me on that). So I'm going to try it. I am about to receive a free intake cam and Its due for a valve adjustment anyways so I'm gonna try it.
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I feel the same way about the gearing,it was almost unusable in the stock ratio.I cant get my head around why they made it so damn low.....except maybe to satisfy people who dont know how to ride!?
Sounds like your coming right along,good work.And dont sweat the cost,its all for fun and to satisfy that need to tinker,right? Or else we'd just blow the $$ on brandnew bikes and all be the same!Ive spent a similar amount on my bike,both initial cost and mods,and I couldnt be happier.....despite the fact that Im 6'2" and the Bandit feels like a scooter compared to my big bikes. :bandit:
I agree and thats why I went 4 down in the rear. It didn't give me the freeway rpm that I wanted but It did make first more usable. I can't agree on the scooter part though lol. I love my bandit and I'm not gonna get rid of her until they make another like her!!!!!
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BTW does anybody know where I can get a timing advance? Or how I can do in electronically?
Johnny
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My bike on standard cogs does run 8000rpm at 80mph in sixth
Possibly because you have a non us bike. I'm not sure. But I can tell you the 91-92 has a 47 stock rear tooth and the 93 has a 46 rear tooth. So depending on your year and the fact that its not a US model may have something to do with that. And not everybody's speedo is the same (as in not accurate, not that I'm saying my is, but its all I have to go off of). BTW I'm at stock front tooth (for now) and 43 in the rear.
Johnny
Nope im on a 47 tooth rear too maybe the primary drive ratios different on non us models?
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Possibly or maybe your speedo is not giving you the same reading as mine or maybe your tach. Also if you have 1 more tooth in the front then I do, it will give you about the same result. I was just going to go with a new front but my rear did need replacing, so I decided to go down on the rear and if I didnt get what I was looking for ,I was gonna replace the front with 1 tooth up. Which after the bore kit I'm going to.
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BTW does anybody know where I can get a timing advance? Or how I can do in electronically?
Johnny
you slot the pic up!
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Possibly or maybe your speedo is not giving you the same reading as mine or maybe your tach. Also if you have 1 more tooth in the front then I do, it will give you about the same result. I was just going to go with a new front but my rear did need replacing, so I decided to go down on the rear and if I didnt get what I was looking for ,I was gonna replace the front with 1 tooth up. Which after the bore kit I'm going to.
Got 2 speedos on my bike so doubt its that. and rev counter works fine as the limiter cuts in at 13500 on the tach as its meant to.
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My limiter cuts in at an indicated 14,500 RPM......always thought that was standard for the B4.
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The manual says 13500 for testing it. But maybe thats just post 93 bikes
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Mine is at 15000. Moved up 500 with the gsxr400 CDI :clap:
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Mine is at 15000. Moved up 500 with the gsxr400 CDI :clap:
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My bike on standard cogs does run 8000rpm at 80mph in sixth
just to back this dude up, mines on standard ratio too and does 6000rpm at 60, 7000rpm at 70 and 8000 rpm at 80 in sixth.
1994 non vv uk bike.
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SOMEBODY TRIED TO STEAL HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They messed with the wiring a bit and then for some odd reason unbolted my rectifier??????? Now she won't run. Here is the really messed up part. At my apt building you have to go though two gates just to get to her with no public access. I think it may have been someone in my building or a friend of someone in the building. I'm soo pissed.
On another note, Jay how much was that carb kit from you again?
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:shock: $75.00 shipped
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SOMEBODY TRIED TO STEAL HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They messed with the wiring a bit and then for some odd reason unbolted my rectifier??????? Now she won't run. Here is the really messed up part. At my apt building you have to go though two gates just to get to her with no public access. I think it may have been someone in my building or a friend of someone in the building. I'm soo pissed.
Isn't the reg/rec under part of the tail plastic? I'd be talking to the building management!!
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Not on the B4 - it's below the tail plastic.
Funking hard to unbolt and get off, though. Wierd that they tried. Still, who knows what goes through the minds of scum?
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I talked to the building management and they told me to get an alarm and its not their problem. I found out shortly after I moved in that the management was a couple of scum themselves. If I had known that living there was going to be such a pain, I would have never moved there. It has been one headache after another. For instance I am a smoker and they said they didn't have a problem with it when I signed the lease and just a week ago they came to me and said I had to quit smoking in my apt. I wish I could just break the lease without repercussion. All well.
BTW. Jay I think I really need that carb kit.
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I was like this yesterday - :wtf:
When I talked to management - :duh:
If I ever find out who it was - :gatlin
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hmm... well you can take off my tail with a nickel and 20 seconds..
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HA HA HA sounds like you had some road side problem before to know that one lol.
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you could say that.... i had to fix my led in the rear to get it to pass inpection.. but i didnt have any tools...
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It's a pice of p*ss to get the tail off. It's much harder to get the reg/rec off, in my experience.
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getting the tail of is quite simple in my experience. remove both seats and i can unclick it.
removing the reg/rec is also quite simple though. 2 screws and 2 connecters which arent hard to reach (they will be harder to reach if i wouldnt use pods, but the original filter though).
btw if i were u id wouldnt stop smoking in the apt. :taz:
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I'm not going to lol, I hope they take it to court so I can counter sue the crap out of them.