Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: MasterM3 on March 07, 2006, 03:59:16 PM
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This is going to seem trivial to most, but does anyone have some data on the performance figures for a 91 B400? I only ask because this is my first bike and I don't really have any concept of how this bike compares to cars and other motorcycles. I have a pretty quick car and can guesstimate its performance in relation to other cars, but since this is my first bike, I don't really have any idea. it certainly feels faster then my car, but other factors lead me to think, I believe the bike to be faster then it is.
I was toying with a Infiniti G35 and would roughly guess that we were about similar in terms of acceleration. I believe this car can do 0-60 in 5.5 and the quarter mile in 14.8 seconds.
Is it safe to say that the b400 is about similar?
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Comparing your new little B4 to other bikes will not be good for your soul. :boohoo:
IIRC, she puts out about 54 at the crank. Prolly <50 at the wheel. With a decent launch, <6 sec 0-60 should be doable. Search around this forum. Theif400 and gsxr400racer (or whatever) have both had their (pretty highly modded ) 400s at the strip. I don't remember their times off the top of my head.
Here's (http://www.bluepoof.com/motorcycles/bandit_specs.html)a good page with some stats.
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ive seen that page. i just have trouble believing the bandit can do a sub 13 sec 1/4 run and 0-60 in under 4 seconds. :( i really wish it could tho
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That 1/4 mile time is corrected to 59 degrees F @ sea level.
Mine does the 1/4 in 13.5 and 96 mph
Yours is going to be slower as your bike only has 32mm carbs
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You can't really compare bike perf/mods like you would car perf/mods
the rider is 70% or more of what makes the bike go. The stock bike can
almost keep up with a lot but its never gonna really kick ass, it'll just
prove most of the riders around you aren't that good...
...unless you start buying kits & cams & all from gsxr400racer
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e36 or e46 M3? Either way, the launch is up to the rider skills (or newbieness), and the M3 should kick the bikes ass above 60mph. Sub 14s quarters are not out of the question... I've embarassed a few hondas/acuras that way before.
0-60 can be rediculous, even with a newbie rider (I've done it in a few car lengths on a 65mph freeway before, from stopped on the side of the road).
BTW, if you say it's an e30, I'm jealous and you MUST post pics.
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not an e30, but ain't complaining
(http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL293/2164069/4508375/72346301.jpg)
(http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL293/2164069/5194851/117271073.jpg)
(http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL293/2164069/5194851/117271406.jpg)
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0-60 can be rediculous, even with a newbie rider (I've done it in a few car lengths on a 65mph freeway before, from stopped on the side of the road).
0-60mph in a few car lengths? Like 45 feet?
V=D/t gives me a 0-60 time of 0.511 seconds for your bike! Holy crap! That's faster than 1000 horse top fuel bike dragsters :shock:
Maybe it just seemed that quick given the circumstances? Hehe. :beers:
Here's a clipping from a Cycle World test of the 91 bandit. They measured 0-60 in 4.1 secs. Quarter mile in 12.99 @ 101mph. Those numbers confirm my seat of the pants comparison to my car as well. The bike is a little quicker from 0 to 60, after which, my car would just walk my little bike. :grin:
(http://russtang.com/Pictures/Suzuki%20Bandit/BanditSpecs.jpg)
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how accurate are those times you posted? i swear if those numbers are correct, I should have been walking all over the g35.
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how accurate are those times you posted?
Um, I dunno, I wasn't there in '90 when they did the testing. :wink: I would assume that a moto magazine would have their testing procedure pretty ironed out tho.
i swear if those numbers are correct, I should have been walking all over the g35.
Yeah, you should have. IF he was stock. And IF you were a trained motorcycle journalist, on a prepped drag strip, with a hand-picked, well-tuned, fresh factory bike, shifted optimally, got the track for a few hours to practice...etc.
Point being is that there are too many variables involved to determine why you were about even with the G35. Driver skill being biggest usually. No offense intended...it's my first motorcycle in 30 years that doesn't have knobby tires! :lol: These high-revving fours don't have a lot of torque. Maybe try keeping the revs up next time? :wink:
I can only base my seat of the pants feeling of my bike's performance (haven't taken it to the track...yet) against my experience driving my car down the strip. I've got hard numbers on my car's performance, (and raced a couple G35s) and can tell you that my 91 400 feels quicker from a dig to around 50/60, but doesn't pull nearly as hard to 100 as my 12.2 @ 115 1/4 mile car. So, those magazine numbers seem about right.
You can always take it to the track & let us know your numbers... :grin:
Russ
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1/4 12.640
mph 104.15 this is my time at the drag strip
Theifs time 13.56 @ 96 mph
Just as reference. :beers:
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Having done a little drag racing in both 4 wheels & 2, I can say it's a helluva lot easier to get a good launch out of a car! I've never had to worry about flipping a car on it's lid from leaving the line hot.
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...I've never had to worry about flipping a car on it's lid from leaving the line hot.
Yeah, me neither. Well, at least since I installed the wheelie bars. :lol:
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Thats why i got a 2 step rev limiter and a wheel bar for mine, to run comsistant
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1/4 12.640
mph 104.15 this is my time at the drag strip
Theifs time 13.56 @ 96 mph
Just as reference. :beers:
Jay you should add that your race bike is about 100 lbs lighter than a road going bandit plus i weigh 250 lmao that don't help either :duh:
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how accurate are those times you posted?
I can only base my seat of the pants feeling of my bike's performance (haven't taken it to the track...yet) against my experience driving my car down the strip. I've got hard numbers on my car's performance, (and raced a couple G35s) and can tell you that my 91 400 feels quicker from a dig to around 50/60, but doesn't pull nearly as hard to 100 as my 12.2 @ 115 1/4 mile car. So, those magazine numbers seem about right.
Fair is fair. I showed pics of my car, now its your turn.
12.2 @ 115 is insanely fast! :congrats:
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1/4 12.640
mph 104.15 this is my time at the drag strip
Theifs time 13.56 @ 96 mph
Just as reference. :beers:
Jay you should add that your race bike is about 100 lbs lighter than a road going bandit plus i weigh 250 lmao that don't help either :duh:
Okay that to , my bike is lighter, was restricted and had compression on all four cylinder like around 130-155 psi and a leaking valve job. I was just using it as a reference they are both good times. cheers
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This makes me want to get my newly acquired project, 68 AMC Javelin 360ci/Turbo 400, Holly 4bb out to the track for some runs! Last summer I couldn't seem to get it moving... just spun the tires a LOT! :lol:
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Fair is fair. I showed pics of my car, now its your turn.
12.2 @ 115 is insanely fast! :congrats:
Thanks, but I wouldn't call it INSANE. :wink: Gets the family to the grocery store ok.
(http://russtang.com/Pictures/Cobra/Img_2814s.jpg)
(http://russtang.com/Pictures/Cobra/Img_2813s.jpg)
(http://russtang.com/Pictures/Cobra/Img_2812s.jpg)
Here are my two toys together.
(http://russtang.com/Pictures/Suzuki%20Bandit/IMG_2883s.JPG)
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Nice paint job on the Bandit! Did you do all that work? Strip the frame too?
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This makes me want to get my newly acquired project, 68 AMC Javelin 360ci/Turbo 400, Holly 4bb out to the track for some runs! Last summer I couldn't seem to get it moving... just spun the tires a LOT! :lol:
Hehe, I still have that problem under 40 MPH. And that's with 315mm drag radials on the back!
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...I've never had to worry about flipping a car on it's lid from leaving the line hot.
Yeah, me neither. Well, at least since I installed the wheelie bars. :lol:
Never had to go that far. Did have a '65 'Stang that would wheelie though... and I recall an incident while doing some street racing in those foolish days where I thought I was gonna land my car on the back of an AMX...
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Nice paint job on the Bandit! Did you do all that work? Strip the frame too?
Thanks, wish I could take the credit. The previous owner did most of it. It was immaculate when I bought it...and still is. :)
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Never had to go that far. Did have a '65 'Stang that would wheelie though... and I recall an incident while doing some street racing in those foolish days where I thought I was gonna land my car on the back of an AMX...
Hehe, I'm a couple seconds (not to mention $5k) away from needing bars on my current car. :wink:
Those 65 mustangs were so light (compared to my 3800 lb pig). My bro has offered to swap motors with me to see if his 65 Shelby would like the power increase...I told him I didn't think I could work his 3-on-the-tree shifter into my steering column. :grin:
And what are the odds of two unrelated AMC posts on one page...on a Suzuki motorcylcle BBS? This thread is out of control! :duh:
:beers:
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your car and bike are beautiful :shock:
I know the previous owner takes a lot of credit for the bike, but any info on the passenger seat removal?
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And what are the odds of two unrelated AMC posts on one page...
Funny... I was thinking the same thing! I learned to drive on an Eagle and my first car was a Hornet with 3 on the tree. Both fine pieces of automotive crap.
(Now there's 3 AMC references and two to 3 on the tree!).
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your car and bike are beautiful :shock:
I know the previous owner takes a lot of credit for the bike, but any info on the passenger seat removal?
:thanks:
I think the solo cowl is factory Suzuki? I'm sure someone knows this better than I. Only been on the bike since October of last year.
It bolts under the front seat via some l-brackets and 2 bolts near the rear to an addon bracket.
I've actually hinged the front and put a magnetic catch on the rear to use it as a limited storage area. I carry my clear helmet visor and a pair of cold-weather gloves in there. I'll take some pics if anyone's interested?
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And what are the odds of two unrelated AMC posts on one page...
Funny... I was thinking the same thing! I learned to drive on an Eagle and my first car was a Hornet with 3 on the tree. Both fine pieces of automotive crap.
(Now there's 3 AMC references and two to 3 on the tree!).
Hehe, the Eagle was the bomb! If I was forced to drive a station wagon (in the early 80's), I would have chosen an Eagle. Preferably in this trim package!
(http://www.bullions.family.btinternet.co.uk/amceagle.jpg)
:grin:
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I've actually hinged the front and put a magnetic catch on the rear to use it as a limited storage area. I carry my clear helmet visor and a pair of cold-weather gloves in there. I'll take some pics if anyone's interested?
Yes please.. :beers: :thanks:
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Ok i'm going to bring a gun to a knife fight LMFAO
just picked this up from a buddy
(http://www.members.shaw.ca/cgard/bbs/Resize%20of%20drag%20racing%20026.JPG)
79 Z28 with a 468 big block. dynoed at 720 hp @ 7900 rpm and does the 1/4 mile in 9.96 @ 142 mph
And yes it is street legal, here in Canada anyways lol [/url]
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your car and bike are beautiful :shock:
I know the previous owner takes a lot of credit for the bike, but any info on the passenger seat removal?
:thanks:
I think the solo cowl is factory Suzuki? I'm sure someone knows this better than I. Only been on the bike since October of last year.
It bolts under the front seat via some l-brackets and 2 bolts near the rear to an addon bracket.
I've actually hinged the front and put a magnetic catch on the rear to use it as a limited storage area. I carry my clear helmet visor and a pair of cold-weather gloves in there. I'll take some pics if anyone's interested?
I would love to see the pics of how you did that to the solo seat
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12.2 @ 115 is insanely fast! :congrats:
Thanks, but I wouldn't call it INSANE. :wink:
...does the 1/4 mile in 9.96 @ 142 mph
NOW do you see what I mean MasterM3? :lol: Almost forgot to mention btw, sharp bimmer! :wink:
And to Thief400...your new car is INSANELY FAST! :congrats: looks like a fun toy!
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I created a new post. See instructions here: :wink:
Solo Cowl Trunk Mod (http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?p=34673#34673)
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Wheee!!! I could keep up with an Audi S4! :lol:
Started to lose when he got to the 150km/h range.. Nevertheless, i had a pillion rider too!
I'm so proud of this bike! :banana:
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whew! quite off topic. thread topic is about the performance of 400
anyway, nice cars sirs.
Ride Safely!