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MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: tomacGTi on December 18, 2007, 10:42:21 PM

Title: Throttle quickener
Post by: tomacGTi on December 18, 2007, 10:42:21 PM
Since I had the carbs out anyway, I was thinking about the R6 throttle tube mod that our SV buddies do. Basically it has a different cam setup to pull more cable for each turn of the throttle, turning a 90* into a 1/6th.

Being the poor guy that I am and also with bum wrists from work and sports through the years, this appealed to me. I did notice that I had to switch up my grip slightly to go WFO from idle and it really made driving out of certain corners a bit more painful. Here's how you can make your own for not so much (free for me):

-If you have a bike shop nearby, get yourself a 5mm 1 1/8" headset spacer, aluminum if possible. The carbon ones are too thin.

-Remove your throttle tube and place it against where it where the cable goes in. Mark where the nylon is and cut the headset spacer to match (hacksaw and vise).

-Slide the cut spacer over the area that the throttle cable rests and reassemble. You'll have to slacken your cables a smidge but not so much.

Result: 1/4"  less throw in the twist. I don't know how much that equates to degree-wise but basically allows you to have much less wrist movement to go WFO. This of course makes your throttle much more sensitive so use at your own risk. No mods are necessary to the switch assembly etc. when using headset spacers. If you make your cut accurate enough, no need to glue either.

Of course, you can use PVC like the R1 guys do but that's on you, it's thicker and may not work as well. Numbers wise, here are the changes:

Before: 29.5mm throttle barrel
After: 30.5mm throttle barrel

Good luck!

-Randy
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: Banditmax on December 18, 2007, 10:47:31 PM
 :worthless:
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: PitterB4 on December 18, 2007, 11:33:20 PM
:worthless:

Yeah Randy, I need pics.  I'm sure your description is up to its normal high standards but I can't picture this one.... and I have a headset spacer in the garage (think it's 5mm).  I'd love to not have to reposition my grip to go WFO on the race bike.
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: tomacGTi on December 19, 2007, 12:33:07 AM
Alright alright.

reference page:

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134014&page=2

Pics:

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/tomacGTi/100_0145.jpg)
This is the headset spacer modified to fit on the throttle tube

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/tomacGTi/100_0141.jpg)
Mounted on the throttle

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/tomacGTi/100_0142.jpg)
Alternate view

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/tomacGTi/100_0143.jpg)
Reduction in throw

Rob, I'm not sure if this will work for you because I don't know what the dia of your throttle area is. If you have some calipers and they size out like this does, this will totally work.

Expect a 15% reduction in throw with this mod.

-Randy
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: Banditmax on December 19, 2007, 10:59:40 AM
See i now fully understand what you mean this thread is now excellent with pics and just needs sticking in the FAQ's
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: tomacGTi on December 19, 2007, 11:50:53 AM
You can be the first to test it then since my bike is asleep till at least April at this point!

Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: Banditmax on December 19, 2007, 01:56:54 PM
My bike's going to be off road till april too i think :(
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: Forde on December 19, 2007, 09:40:37 PM
what does WFO mean?
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: Sven on December 19, 2007, 11:10:32 PM
what does WFO mean?

wide effin open.
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: pmackie on December 20, 2007, 12:21:19 PM
Quote
what does WFO mean?

Back in the origional Star Trek days...

Kirk: Take us out of orbit Scotty, Warp Factor One...(WFO)

Or as Sven said Wide F...... Open.
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: Banditmax on March 18, 2008, 12:28:57 PM
Finally got round to doing this omg it's good. For anyone who hasn't done it i would reccomend it. Not like the 400's a power monster so you won't scare yourself but it makes the bike so much easier to get on the power.
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: gsxr400 racer on March 21, 2008, 08:51:42 PM
To the FAQ :stickpoke:
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: Herr Tod on March 22, 2008, 10:42:45 AM
I did something like this when I noticed I had about 5% throttle left in a corner because I couldn't move my hand in time in the local chicane. Works like a charm :beers:
Title: Re: Throttle quickener
Post by: PitterB4 on March 22, 2008, 11:57:15 PM
To the FAQ :stickpoke:

Yeah... I'm waiting til I have a chance to do this to the CBR first!  :monkeymoon:  Just got the ZX buttoned back up from the winter mod/maintenance.  The ugly bike is next..