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MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 600 thru 1200 - AIR/OIL COOLED TECHNICAL => Topic started by: Mongo on March 25, 2009, 12:40:02 AM

Title: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 25, 2009, 12:40:02 AM
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/CIMG6075.jpg)

Stripped, prepped and painted the new Busa wheel Sunday!
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6114.jpg)
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The Galfer rotors were a tease they were off my buddies ZRX to bad they wont fit I ended up getting a set off a TL 1000!
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6133.jpg)

Put her up on the lift and got her ready for the Busa forks!
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Machined down a bronze bushing for the Busa upper tripple to accept the Bandit stem today! What's the moto measure once machine three times?
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/IMG_1329.jpg)

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Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Cruisecontrol on March 25, 2009, 07:08:12 AM
Awesome stuff!

Once you get rid of the stock front end it becomes a whole new bike.
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 25, 2009, 08:41:06 AM
Awesome stuff!

Once you get rid of the stock front end it becomes a whole new bike.

Yea, I thought the Busa rear shock and race tech front springs made a difference I can't wait to try this set up! :beers:
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: mademiriam on March 25, 2009, 01:35:07 PM
sweet thread, keep us updated how it goes. Hope to put my own busa forks in within the next month or two. While the snow still flies  :banghead:
why did you go with a bronze bushing? (i haven't decided on materials yet so am looking for any good hints)
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: mademiriam on March 25, 2009, 02:10:15 PM
turns out I have more questions... what fender will you use?
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 25, 2009, 04:22:28 PM
sweet thread, keep us updated how it goes. Hope to put my own busa forks in within the next month or two. While the snow still flies  :banghead:
why did you go with a bronze bushing? (i haven't decided on materials yet so am looking for any good hints)

Because that's what I had? :trustme:
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 25, 2009, 04:24:42 PM
turns out I have more questions... what fender will you use?

If I go with one I'll end up with one off a GSXR 600/750, some dude over at the other board put one on his bike with some minor mods looked sweet!
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: mademiriam on March 25, 2009, 05:32:13 PM
 :grin: Ironic I've been looking at getting a gsxr one as well (but maybe making it a bit smaller) id love to see a pic though. any chance you got a link to that other board?
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 25, 2009, 08:35:49 PM
:grin: Ironic I've been looking at getting a gsxr one as well (but maybe making it a bit smaller) id love to see a pic though. any chance you got a link to that other board?
(http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/07/03/bikepics-1341718-800.jpg)
http://www.maximum-suzuki.com/forums/index.php/topic,70130.msg784343.html#msg784343
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 25, 2009, 09:14:44 PM
OK corrected the ID on the bushing and did the fitting & things seem to be good to go!

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Damn I wish I would  have not got rid of my press so I could swap out the stems and why the hell did they put those tamper proof torx in the ignition switch got the correct one but it won't budge Freaking Loctite! Perhaps a little Heat!
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Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 26, 2009, 11:18:33 PM
Swapped out the Bandtit stem into the Busa lower, now I need to get to work on the stops!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6144.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Cruisecontrol on March 27, 2009, 05:54:55 AM
Stops?

That is what the oil cooler is for!
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 28, 2009, 08:30:03 PM
Stripped the lower end of the Busa forks today!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6150.jpg)
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Set up the new steering stops, I really did not want to use my oil cooler!

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Mounted the bars and started fitting the new gauge mount!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6165.jpg)

That's about as far as I got today need to swap the tire install the new bearings & and seals to the wheel and mount the head light turn signals etc. etc. etc.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6169.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 29, 2009, 11:03:42 PM
Work slowed today after my 6 mm allen stripped making it a bitch to get the bolts out of th Bandit rotors  :banghead: (recycled to the Busa wheel) a trip to Sears problem solved. Then a trip across town to swap out the tire (Thanks Erik :thumb:).

Got home and started putting the little Beotch back together when my Buddy Turbo Bob showed up and noted the drag on the brakes after an hour of shimming the calipers she freed up a enough to take out for a ride once I finish putting her together?


(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6171.jpg)
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Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: mademiriam on March 30, 2009, 11:42:16 AM
looks great thanks for the writeup
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 30, 2009, 11:19:12 PM
Had to reverse the head light brackets to accept the Acerbis to the Busa forks, hooked up the head light and turn signals, finished hooking up the vapor gauges, and cinched down the bars and went for road a test!

I need to do some more work but it's getting there.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6179.jpg)
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Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on March 31, 2009, 11:28:52 PM
I managed to finish installing the mounting bracket for the gauges tonight just need to take it back off one more time and clean up the radius around the ignition switch to even it out and touch up the paint.

I also sorted out the the movment in the bars by pulling the Busa upper bushing and replaced it with the upper bushing from the Bandit bar mounts. The chrome cap managed to stiffen it up not allowing it to flex as much! :motorsmile:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6181.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: mademiriam on April 01, 2009, 02:15:55 PM
any chance you know the measurements for the spacer you had to make for the spindle?   
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on April 01, 2009, 09:00:35 PM
any chance you know the measurements for the spacer you had to make for the spindle?   


Had it written on a post it note in my jacket pocket and I tossed it yesterday but I think it was 0.980" OD and 0.870" ID but I'm not 100% sure. I can measure the Busa Stem for the OD and the Bandit triple clamp to make sure?
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: mademiriam on April 02, 2009, 07:37:41 AM
could you? I'd like to keep the bandit together as long as possible but want to run up to my dads for easter and may as well spin the spacer when im there.
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on April 04, 2009, 01:49:49 PM
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Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: mademiriam on April 04, 2009, 02:18:01 PM
sweet  :thanks: :thanks: thats great, now i can leave the bandit road worthy for a few more weeks.
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on April 05, 2009, 04:01:24 PM
I Finally got a chance to make a run up the canyon to bad it was so windy I really did not get the chance to see how the new set up was working out but what I can tell you so far is the Busa forks make a night and day change in the handling from what I can tell!

That and my butt puckered when I saw brake fluid on my bars, guess I needed to put a little more shit on the fittings to the master after I relocated the brake lines! :duh:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6188.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on April 07, 2009, 09:45:58 PM
Fabricated a mounting plate for the Busa steering damper to fit to the Bandits head light and fairing bracket using a hack saw, die grinder, 5/16" tap, a scrap 1" x 1/2" plate and a welder!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/CIMG6193.jpg)

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A little paint and I'll mount it up!
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on April 08, 2009, 08:58:17 PM
Don't use 1/2" stock you'll end up grinding a 1/3 of it back out to make it fit. That and you will need to use a hex head bolt to get it to clear the steering stop a cap head was way to tall.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6199.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on April 11, 2009, 10:47:04 PM
Mounted and 06/07 GSXR 600/750 front fender to a Busa Front end Today.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6236.jpg)

Cut tabs
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Trimmed the rear tab on the fender and fabricated spacers and brackets for the front tabs on the fender.
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Mounted and called it good!
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Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: gyrogearcrunch on April 14, 2009, 01:23:11 AM
Swapped out the Bandtit stem into the Busa lower, now I need to get to work on the stops!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6144.jpg)

WTH! Are those ball bearings on the steering post? You have GOT to be kidding! Nothing but roller bearings are adequate on anything bigger than a moped!
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on April 16, 2009, 10:26:51 PM
Swapped out the Bandtit stem into the Busa lower, now I need to get to work on the stops!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6144.jpg)

WTH! Are those ball bearings on the steering post? You have GOT to be kidding! Nothing but roller bearings are adequate on anything bigger than a moped!

I ride in the slow lane!
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: gyrogearcrunch on April 17, 2009, 12:09:56 AM
Swapped out the Bandtit stem into the Busa lower, now I need to get to work on the stops!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/02-mongo/johnny%205/CIMG6144.jpg)

WTH! Are those ball bearings on the steering post? You have GOT to be kidding! Nothing but roller bearings are adequate on anything bigger than a moped!

I ride in the slow lane!

Look, me like Mongo, but Mongo got to get roller bearings for poor Bandit! Mongo ever see steering head bearings fall out of Yamaha R5C, all nice and square like tiny dice? Me did. No ride bike with bearings like that! Not fair to unsuspecting  mommies with baseball team in mini-van!

Okay - serious again: Page 2-17 Suzuki Service Manual, GSF1200S Service Manual, p/n 99500-39134-03E, "periodic maintenance, steering" on page 2-17 says that "TAPERED ROLLER BEARINGS are used on the steering system for better handling". You really need to go to the Ronayers.com Fiche Desktop and have a look at what the fork assembly is made of. You won't find no steenkin' BALL BEARINGS on the fork assembly, OL' BUDDY! Look ashamed!
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: Mongo on April 17, 2009, 09:19:12 PM

Look, me like Mongo, but Mongo got to get roller bearings for poor Bandit! Mongo ever see steering head bearings fall out of Yamaha R5C, all nice and square like tiny dice? Me did. No ride bike with bearings like that! Not fair to unsuspecting  mommies with baseball team in mini-van!

Okay - serious again: Page 2-17 Suzuki Service Manual, GSF1200S Service Manual, p/n 99500-39134-03E, "periodic maintenance, steering" on page 2-17 says that "TAPERED ROLLER BEARINGS are used on the steering system for better handling". You really need to go to the Ronayers.com Fiche Desktop and have a look at what the fork assembly is made of. You won't find no steenkin' BALL BEARINGS on the fork assembly, OL' BUDDY! Look ashamed!


Shit where were you when I started this project now I have to go and yank it down again, oh well it rides bitchin for now I'll worry about it latter!
 :thumb:
Thanks
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: gyrogearcrunch on April 17, 2009, 11:31:48 PM

Look, me like Mongo, but Mongo got to get roller bearings for poor Bandit! Mongo ever see steering head bearings fall out of Yamaha R5C, all nice and square like tiny dice? Me did. No ride bike with bearings like that! Not fair to unsuspecting  mommies with baseball team in mini-van!

Okay - serious again: Page 2-17 Suzuki Service Manual, GSF1200S Service Manual, p/n 99500-39134-03E, "periodic maintenance, steering" on page 2-17 says that "TAPERED ROLLER BEARINGS are used on the steering system for better handling". You really need to go to the Ronayers.com Fiche Desktop and have a look at what the fork assembly is made of. You won't find no steenkin' BALL BEARINGS on the fork assembly, OL' BUDDY! Look ashamed!


Shit where were you when I started this project now I have to go and yank it down again, oh well it rides bitchin for now I'll worry about it latter!
 :thumb:
Thanks

Mongo, you're in luck. Changing the steering head bearings is pretty easy. Just have a set of tapered roller bearings on hand whose Inner Diameter fits over the steering post, and whose Outer Diameter fits the GSF1200 steering head. Be sure the bearings are properly oriented too. Talk to a Suzuki mechanic if you're not sure of the exact installation and adjustment procedures. The shop manual even has a procedure for torquing the bearings precisely so that there's virtually no chance of head shake. Your bike is a real beauty. It's obvious you've put a lot of work and love into her, so don't take a chance of losing her due to the use of ball bearings in the steering head.
Title: Re: Another Busa Fork Conversion Post!
Post by: mademiriam on July 17, 2009, 02:18:36 PM
Hey mongo, just wanted to say thanks, your measured spacer fit perfectly! Very happy with that, now if only the guy operating the press at the machine shop did as good a job.  :duh: