Author Topic: Ignition retard 2nd & 3rd? (Read 4894 times)

Boosted-Bandit · « **on:** June 02, 2005, 02:43:30 AM »

What's this only on the Euro bikes?
Another Canuck said he did it to his bike and it was night and day difference.
I can't find the 2 wires anywhere under the left side cover.
Only resemblance to the colors mentioned was in a 4 wire connector.

Red01 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2005, 08:38:26 PM »

Quote from: "Boosted-Bandit"

What's this only on the Euro bikes?

That's the story. Everyone I've heard of with a US model that's tried it says there's no difference. Don't know about CDN models.

yogi · « **Reply #2 on:** June 16, 2005, 07:01:26 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong guys, but I think the 2 wire connector is only on the gen1 Bandits. The only plug I could find on my gen2 which made any sense to disconnect was the neutral light switch plug which curiously has 4 wires if I remember correctly (2 for the light and 2 for a gear position sensor maybe?)

Red01 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 18, 2005, 06:12:18 AM »

There is no OEM gear position indicator on the Bandits, so my guess is 1 wire is common/ground, one is for neutral and the other two tell the black box if the bike is in 2nd or 3rd - but the black box for certain markets doesn't care.

yogi · « **Reply #4 on:** June 24, 2005, 02:39:39 PM »

Thanks Red01. That's what I meant really- a sensor to tell the cdi what gear the bike is in so as to enable an ignition retard

bandit600 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2005, 04:51:26 PM »

I bought the Nikko G-Pack and installed it on my '04 B6. The difference is great. Much more pull in 2nd and 3rd gear.

The G-Pack bypasses the retard between approx 2500-8000 RPM

I'm in Canada, but it's the same on US B6 models.

ray nielsen · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2005, 06:19:52 PM »

On 2G Bandit 1200s there is a four wire connector to the gearshift switch under the left hand sprocket cover. One wire is ground (Black/White), one of for the neutral light (Blue) and it is grounded by the switch when in neutral. The other two (Red/Black and Green/Black) are used to tell the ignition module which gear you're in. I don't know which of these is grounded in which gear, but you could easily find out with an ohmmeter. With the transmission in each gear measure from each of the colored wires with a black stripe to see which is grounded in which gear.

On my Kawasaki W650 a similar arangement was used. In fourh and fifth gears none of the wires were grounded, in the lower gears (1st - 2nd - 3rd) there was one which was grounded.

I'm pretty sure this ground acts to inform the ignition module what advance curve to use with a default curve used when none of the wires are grounded. I doubt it's a simple retard. rather it determines the "shape" of the advance curve to provide clean running and minimum emissions.