Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 600 thru 1200 - AIR/OIL COOLED TECHNICAL => Topic started by: rspector on May 11, 2006, 03:40:08 PM
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does any one think a bandit with 150 hp could break 150 mph?
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I would say... easily.
A piped & jetted 1200 should be able to do 150 or very close to it. And that's only about 120hp
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i am having a disagreement with a guy who says he's got a cammed,jetted,piped b1200 and he cant hit 150, I think its bull s***t. But I have been wrong before ;) (just not often)
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nope, he should have not problem
stock can do an actual 146 the speedo probably says 160
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Maybe not 150mph on a 1/4 mile dragstrip, but on an open road, I can't imagine it not, unless it is unfaired, and he weighs about 500 pounds, and has geared it down, and strapped bricks on the passenger seat, and it is running on 3 cylinders, with flat tires.
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i am having a disagreement with a guy who says he's got a cammed,jetted,piped b1200 and he cant hit 150, I think its bull s***t. But I have been wrong before ;) (just not often)
That's OK, my neighbor struck up a converstation about Buells. He said "You crotch rockets ain't got nuthin on those Buells, they're bad ass" :duh:
No doubt one is probabally faster than me in the corners but that ain't saying much.
I have seen the stock 170mph speedo pegged on mine and my digital speedo read 153 at the time. I weigh 315 and have the frontal area of a motorhome.
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I do 139 in the 1/4, can easily do 170, maybe even 180, with 155 RWHP.
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A bone-stock B12 should hit 150mph.
If he can't, either he's geared it down or something's wrong.
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bone stock acording to MCN a 2001 hit 151 MPH average. Considering the bike is a bit overgeared I'm sure you could hit 155-160 with a jet kit and pipe.
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:clap:
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I have an 05 B12 purchased in Nevada and had no problem getting up to 140 but am planning to get a Nikko G-pack module cause I heard that at 150 the bike's speed and rev limiter will kick in and prevent the bike from going past 150. Any one knows if this is true.
Nope it is drag limited, meaning she don't got the power or gearing to go faster in stock form. A stock B12 will not pull redline in 5th gear.
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My speedo might be wrong but I did 150MPH the other night with a little room to go. I'm talking bone stock here, am I missing something?
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Yeah Britxbike, your missing the roughly 10% error that your speedometer has! At indicated 150 you are propably truly going about 135mph. Get a GPS and verify it.
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I have an 05 B12 purchased in Nevada and had no problem getting up to 140 but am planning to get a Nikko G-pack module cause I heard that at 150 the bike's speed and rev limiter will kick in and prevent the bike from going past 150. Any one knows if this is true.
For the B12, the Nikko G-Pack is a waste of money. The only thing it does on the B12 is eliminate the timing change in lower gears on Euro models. The same thing can be accomplished on these bikes by snipping a wire that tells the black box what gear the bike is in. US & CDN models don't even have this wire. (Not sure about other markets, like Japan or Down-Under models.) It may be a worthwhile product in other applications, I don't know... but not worth it for Bandits.
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i have a b6 and have hit 130 - 133mph i got scared haha
that's having less than 80 ponies.
im 125 pounds.
put me on the stock b12 i'll probably go 160 - 170 or more haha
:monkeymoon:
not that i would, i'd be scared shitless.
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My speedo might be wrong but I did 150MPH the other night with a little room to go. I'm talking bone stock here, am I missing something?
Have you lost your mind? :shock: And that's all I have to say about that.
Where'd you do it? Out on 121 towards Bonham?
Oh, yeah, and speaking of the speedo error, I happened to notice an ad in the back of Bike for some sort of little electronic gizmo that would correct your speedo to reality. No more 10% error. But I ditched the mag and can't remember the link to the product. Anybody know?
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There are a few products that will fix the error for you countershaft reading 2nd gen. speedos. Us first generations are not able to be fixed it because they drive off the front wheel mechanically.
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Hi
My unfaired Bandit has ~150hp and has managed 166.2mph (through timing lights) on stock gearing (a good few hundred rpm into the red line).
Large mpg video of the bike doing an indicated 170mph:-
http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/Videos/BanditTopSpeedFull.mpg
Sitting slightly higher due to the camera knocked about 12mph off the top speed.
Next target is 170mph genuine (now got some flat slide carbs for a bit more power, and going to play with the gearing).
All the best
Keith
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Desolation Angel: britxbike: My speedo might be wrong but I did 150MPH the other night with a little room to go. I'm talking bone stock here, am I missing something?
Have you lost your mind? :shock: And that's all I have to say about that.
Where'd you do it? Out on 121 towards Bonham?
Service road between Jupiter and Ave K for the GB. Ever been down it DA?
I thought I was setting a record there for a second but that makes more sense why I couldn't figure out why I thought everyone else was always going way faster when I was looking at my speedo. So 80 Mph was actually 72Mph. LOL not sure if that's a good thing to know. Does anyone know where I can get the equipment to fix this issue?
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You will probably find (if your gearing is stock) that while the speedo is optimistic, the odometer is pretty accurate, so anything you do to correct the speedo will make the odo read higher than actual. If this doesn't bother you, there are products out there that will correct the speedo, like the Yellow Box. (http://www.blackrobotics.com/)
If the odo thing matters to you, you can use a GPS or a bicycle speedo for accurate speed readings.
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if you use a bicycle spedometer, will that acurately display your speed like a GPS / or GPS tuned yellow box corrector?
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Yes. You set the bicycle speedo when you install it. It calibrates to the front wheel size. They are very accurate and many models will read to speeds in excess of what a B12 will ever see. They also have some cool extra features, too. The only bad thing is most are powered by watch batteries and have no backlighting.
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I have a GPS that mounts to the handlebar, the only problem is trying to look at it while moving fast. It will save the highest speed so you can check it after you stop.
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You know, I really don't like being given an inaccurate instrument like this when I'm gonna be out in traffic risking my life. What are bike manufacturers thinking? No wonder people are on my @ss all the time. I mean, I think I'm doing a bit over the speed limit, but I'm actually not going the limit at all! I may have to get this yellow box thing.
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The bike makers are drinking the same kool-aid as the car makers. Their speedos read slow, too. Usually not quite as optimistic as bikes tho.
Part of it has to do with liability. If the speedo reads 70 and you're really doing 80, they risk legal troubles... and some countries will fine them heavily if they err that way, so they err on the other end.
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any suggestions on a good clean looking bike spedo install??
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Here's one on a 2G - mounted between the bar clamps;
(http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-gsf1200-02-bikepics-334515.jpg)
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How is it reading the wheel? An electronic eye watching the spokes, or?
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Basically, yes.
You bond a magnet on the wheel (usually use a rotor carrier because it's closer) and a sensor on the fork tube and it senses wheel speed that way.
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i have a b6 and have hit 130 - 133mph i got scared haha
that's having less than 80 ponies.
im 125 pounds.
put me on the stock b12 i'll probably go 160 - 170 or more haha
:monkeymoon:
not that i would, i'd be scared shitless.
got about that meself on my B6. one of the lads on a cbr600 was following me other mate on a B6 and clocked him doing 140. then again though thats what the clock said so in reality I dont know.
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Desolation Angel: britxbike: My speedo might be wrong but I did 150MPH the other night with a little room to go. I'm talking bone stock here, am I missing something?
Have you lost your mind? :shock: And that's all I have to say about that.
Where'd you do it? Out on 121 towards Bonham?
Service road between Jupiter and Ave K for the GB. Ever been down it DA?...
Brian, I haven't. I try to go north of McKinney because it's wide open unpopulated. 121 N. is a great ride. We ought to take it on together sometime so I can show you what fast really is! :wink: By the way, have you still been riding with Rose Knight and those guys? I haven't seen any invites in a long time.
Sorry for hijacking, guys, but I can't control myself. Jim's influence is everywhere!
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Agreed on the riding part sometime. I actually ran into Rose knight a few weeks ago at Cyclegear in Plano. He's joined up with a Texas cycle group and less GS. He wasn't real happy with the last GS hill country ride.
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Agreed on the riding part sometime. I actually ran into Rose knight a few weeks ago at Cyclegear in Plano. He's joined up with a Texas cycle group and less GS. He wasn't real happy with the last GS hill country ride.
We need to put him on a Bandit! Then bring him over here where the real men post!
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I got up to 210km/h indicated and it was still pulling hard, but the traffic was too much to go faster. If you look at my sig I would hardley call my bike "super modified". In fact it's probably one of the least modified here.
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01 B12
homegrown jet and airbox hole
Muzzy full exhaust
PAIR delete
Indicated 155 at just under 9000 rpm, still pulling but my buds GSXR 1000 saw an indicated 172 so I gave up the chase.
Figure the speedo was a bit optimistic on both bikes, but the Bandit should be able to get there