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MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 600 thru 1200 - AIR/OIL COOLED TECHNICAL => Topic started by: stian on February 14, 2006, 06:59:51 PM

Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: stian on February 14, 2006, 06:59:51 PM
I'm thinking about polishing the covers on my engine, and paint the rest of it black, but a few questions first..
When i open the covers, after off course drained out all the oil, is everything inside stuck? or can i count on everything come falling out? like the sprockets and so on? And what about gaskets?

picture to show what i mean..

(http://www.team-htr.com/side.jpg)
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Sven on February 14, 2006, 09:14:42 PM
My experiences with by 2ndG 1200:

Both covers have a gasket which is glued in place and should be replaced.

I don't recall anything tricky inside the Signal Generator Cover.

Inside the Starter Gear cover, there is a gear which has a gearshaft which is held in place by the cover.  Really sort of a cheap way to hold the gearshaft in place.  If the gear comes out, you can slip it back in.
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: PitterB4 on February 14, 2006, 09:15:16 PM
You shouldn't need to drain all the oil.  Some will come out - just have a pan to catch what does.  I've only had mine off once.  I used a propane torch to warm the cover to make the gasket more pliable (my own idea - may not have done anything) and was able to save/reuse it.  Oh - nothing should come tumbling out at you.
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Red01 on February 15, 2006, 11:19:10 AM
I didn't know you had a 600/1200 now, Rob.  :wink:

If the big clutch cover is gonna come off for polishing, you WILL need to drain the oil, or be prepared to catch it all when it comes out with that cover off.
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Desolation Angel on February 15, 2006, 12:02:31 PM
Shiney side covers are cool.  Here's an example ...

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/DesolationAngels/1978GS1000E.jpg)

The guy that owns this may be a member here.  I can't remember for sure, but he has a B12S made up pretty much the same way and it's sharp!  Can't find that pic right now.
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: land_shark on February 15, 2006, 01:42:24 PM
Here's what you need! (from Wild Hair Accessories)
(http://www.whaccessories.com/GSGClutchCoverBandit.jpg)
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Desolation Angel on February 15, 2006, 01:48:28 PM
Yeah, be lazy and buy your bling!

(http://www.whaccessories.com/wpe59815.gif)
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: land_shark on February 15, 2006, 01:53:54 PM
you mean you can't fab a nifty winder in your clutch cover.  All it takes is enough beer and a big enough hammer, right?  :wink:
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: scooter trash on February 15, 2006, 02:24:46 PM
You guys crack me up. You make fun of us Harley guys then in the next breath ask how to strip the paint off to make your bikes shine like chrome. I for one like the ease of taking care of my 1200 as opposed to the 5 hrs of cleaning and polishing and waxing my Springer.

 “LESS CLEANING MORE RIDING” :motorsmile:  :motorsmile:  :motorsmile:  :motorsmile:  :motorsmile:
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: land_shark on February 15, 2006, 02:39:55 PM
yeouch!

I certainly see your point :)   I try hard not to slag on harley folks. After all, it's not all HD riders, just a few, right   :wink:  :stickpoke:

I'm guessing we get a little more snow in IA than you do in VA beach.  That gives me wayyy to much time to sit in the garage and let my mind wander into 'bling' territory....  :boohoo:
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Desolation Angel on February 15, 2006, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: "land_shark"
yeouch!

I certainly see your point :)   I try hard not to slag on harley folks. After all, it's not all HD riders, just a few, right   :wink:  :stickpoke:

I'm guessing we get a little more snow in IA than you do in VA beach.  That gives me wayyy to much time to sit in the garage and let my mind wander into 'bling' territory....  :boohoo:


While you're sittting out there not knowing what to do with yourself, figure out a way to install a belt drive on the Bandit.  Better yet, a shaft.

 :thanks:
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: land_shark on February 15, 2006, 03:04:22 PM
:toofunny:
Quote from: "Desolation Angel"

While you're sittting out there not knowing what to do with yourself, figure out a way to install a belt drive on the Bandit.  Better yet, a shaft.
 :thanks:

Better yet, I'm gonna install one of THESE babys!

(http://www.monkeyrivertown.com/images/up/flux%20capacitor.jpg)
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: PitterB4 on February 15, 2006, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: "Red01"
I didn't know you had a 600/1200 now, Rob.  :wink:

If the big clutch cover is gonna come off for polishing, you WILL need to drain the oil, or be prepared to catch it all when it comes out with that cover off.


I could swear that at some point you posted that you didn't need to drain the oil to remove the clutch cover.   :?:   In fact that's what gave me the courage to remove it w/out draining.  Actually, when the B4 is on the sidestand, it's pretty obvious looking at the window, there's not much oil against the cover (kinda like that first B12 pic above  :stickpoke: ).
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Desolation Angel on February 15, 2006, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: "land_shark"
:toofunny:
Quote from: "Desolation Angel"

While you're sittting out there not knowing what to do with yourself, figure out a way to install a belt drive on the Bandit.  Better yet, a shaft.
 :thanks:

Better yet, I'm gonna install one of THESE babys!

(http://www.monkeyrivertown.com/images/up/flux%20capacitor.jpg)


Ooooo, the H-D Screaming Eagle Flux Capacitor Powerband Expander!  Cool!
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Red01 on February 15, 2006, 03:33:54 PM
You probably can pull the clutch cover off and not loose too much oil on the sidestand... just when mine's parked in the garage it's usually on the centerstand. It's more stable that way when you go pulling bolts off of covers that haven't been removed in a long time - in some cases, not since the factory put them on.
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Red01 on February 15, 2006, 03:40:15 PM
Quote from: "Desolation Angel"
While you're sittting out there not knowing what to do with yourself, figure out a way to install a belt drive on the Bandit.  Better yet, a shaft.


With a little creativity, I'm sure a shaft drive would be doable... you could use parts from a GSX1100G, you'd just have to do a little custom work in the swingarm dept and probably shorten the driveshaft.

(http://www.byte-worker.de/gsxg/bilder/gallerypix/Album_staak.jpg)
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Desolation Angel on February 15, 2006, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: "Red01"
Quote from: "Desolation Angel"
While you're sittting out there not knowing what to do with yourself, figure out a way to install a belt drive on the Bandit.  Better yet, a shaft.


With a little creativity, I'm sure a shaft drive would be doable... you could use parts from a GSX1100G, you'd just have to do a little custom work in the swingarm dept and probably shorten the driveshaft.

(http://www.byte-worker.de/gsxg/bilder/gallerypix/Album_staak.jpg)


We've discussed this before and I've been waiting for you to perfect the procedure and file a report.
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Red01 on February 15, 2006, 09:00:16 PM
I'll be glad to get started on it as soon as you get me the parts from a G.

 :thanks: in advance!  :banana:  :bigok:
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Desolation Angel on February 15, 2006, 09:47:20 PM
Quote from: "Red01"
I'll be glad to get started on it as soon as you get me the parts from a G.

 :thanks: in advance!  :banana:  :bigok:


Where's the challenge in that for you?  Tell you what, buddy, you run down all the parts, work out the details, do whatever machining you need, test it all, then I'll pay you for parts and a bit of labor (don't want to insult you by overpaying for the labor), and I'll even pay the shipping to ship it to me.

You can't beat a deal like that with a stick!
Title: Polishing clutch cover, engine covers
Post by: Red01 on February 15, 2006, 10:12:19 PM
Sure I can...

ME --->  :stickpoke: <--- Your deal