Author Topic: Slip-on WITHOUT a jet kit? (Read 3833 times)

Sandman9270 · « **on:** February 23, 2007, 03:57:40 PM »

Ok, I admit it. I want to put a slip-on on my B6 just for a better sound, less weight, better looks. This may seem phony and superficial to some, but hey it's a B6! How much real power am I going to get with a jet kit anyway? It runs GREAT as is. Starts right up (even at 30F!) smooth accelration even through 4-5k. Just want something a little louder!

So the question is, are there any pipes out there that run ok WITHOUT a jet kit? Bear in mind, most of my riding is commuting, so it's not like I'm red-lining the thing everywhere. couldn't I just back out the pilot screws a bit? I put a jet kit in my FZ1 a few years back and swore I would NEVER do it again. Just not that great a mechanic...(chewed up carb bowl screws, incorrect re-assmebly, broke a pencil-lead thin drill bit off trying to widen one of the holes you have to bore out, you name it!)

So whaddya think? Good idea? Bad?

PaulVS · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2007, 05:03:49 PM »

You can put just about any aftermarket slip-on on your bike without a jet kit. You may even notice some improvement in HP. But you'll probably notice more decel 'pop' and really won't feel the full benefit without a jet kit.

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2007, 05:21:15 PM »

The result will be less back pressure on the engine making it work less to expel exhaust and therefor provide a little more power. As a result it will try and draw more air through the air cleaner but only a little since it is meeting resistance from the small opening of the stock air box. So you will run a little lean but not enough to do damage to the engine. If however you decide to open the air box by drilling holes in it without the proper jetting changes (kit). You run the risk of making your engine run so lean that the engine overheats in the combustion areas resulting in any number of fun repairs from burned exhaust valves that leak to melted or seized pistons. Not as easy to repair as bolting on an exhaust system or drilling holes, but a great way to learn allot about engines.
So whatever you do after bolting on the new exhaust, leave your air box stock until you save the money for your Ivan or Holshot carburetor kit which is 1/6 the price of a full exhaust system or 1/3 the price of a slip-on. So if your really wise you will buy both the slip-on and the kit getting both noticeable performance and an even better sound then the exhaust alone..

Red01 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2007, 10:44:05 AM »

You'll make an already lean running bike run leaner still. The jet kit for the B6 isn't as tough as the FZ1. I highly recommend a jet kit for the B6, even if you didn't want to put a can on it. It'll run SOOOO much better! And won't be nearly so cold-blooded.

Sandman9270 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2007, 05:34:36 PM »

incidentally, for those of you who HAVE done Dales kit (probably the one I'm gonna go with) on the 2G 600 Bandit, what all does it entail? Are there any PERMANENT changes you have to make (drilling holes, widening holes, bending floats)?

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2007, 06:47:27 PM »

If your serious about making a purchase you should call Dale and Ivan and ask. If your strait forward and sincere, they will probubly e-mail you the installation instructions.

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incidentally, for those of you who HAVE done Dales kit (probably the one I'm gonna go with) on the 2G 600 Bandit, what all does it entail? Are there any PERMANENT changes you have to make (drilling holes, widening holes, bending floats)?

Red01 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2007, 10:51:39 AM »

The only permanent changes would be holes put into the airbox lid - which can always be covered with duct tape if you ever decided to go back to stock. I'm pretty sure the same is true with Ivan's B6 kit, too.

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2007, 11:10:22 AM »

Yes Ivan's perm changes include the drilling of 22 holes in the airbox. If I switch to K&N pods (mostly for looks), I plan to fix the airbox by filling the holes with silicone sealer or Shoe-Goop, then paint it back again ready for the new Hilary Clinton regime.

osmckeown · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2007, 01:49:08 PM »

Take your stock Canister/Midpipe off the bike (only 3 bolts holding it on) And bring it to your local muffler shop, have them cut the canister off and weld a 2" glasspack in it's place. You will have one throaty sounding exhaust and awesome performance. It should cost no more than $50, you can do it all yourself if you have a welder for $20 (glasspack's cost). I'd advise polishing the glasspack so it looks like chrome and then putting a layer of hightemp clearcoat on it so it doesn't rust. I have done this personally to all different types of bikes and they all perform and sound amazing! On my B6 I did this and lowed the clip 1 position on my stock carbs and I can power wheelie everytime no problem, and I can clutch wheelie it in second. I don't care what anyone says, this bike is way more powerful and louder (duh) with an aftermarket exhaust. So you can spend $20 on a custom exhaust that sounds and looks great, or go spend $300 plus for something that sounds quieter just looks different.

solman · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2007, 07:07:36 AM »

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If your serious about making a purchase you should call Dale and Ivan and ask. If your strait forward and sincere, they will probubly e-mail you the installation instructions.

He won't email the instructions. He may fax them, but no email. I lost my instructions once and that is how I got mine.