Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 600 thru 1200 - AIR/OIL COOLED TECHNICAL => Topic started by: wndrr on June 24, 2005, 11:59:49 AM
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Gage Problems Jim Just got a 1996 bandit 600
the bike runs well and charges the batter well but
The Speedo works but not back lit the RPM gage no light and not working
The turn single indicator lights are the only lights on the panel that work
So no hibeem indicator no neutral light and no oil light
I checked the harness at in the faring and every thing looks conected
My guess it a bad or lose wire some place any ideas where to start looking
And yes all the fuses are good
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Ouch. I'd try cleaning the plug connectors, then start checking the wires for breaks, or shorts.
A multimeter with audible continuity tester would come in handy.
I don't know off hand what all wiring is bundled together in the harnesses.....but I'd supect a trashed bundle of wires, that maybe got pinched, or cut...or worse.
It's not overcharging, is it? Not sure if the instrument lights would be the first to go if the voltage were too high..
All other lights OK?
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yes evrey thing els works good and the headlight stays bright ie no dimming or geting brtigher its all in the instrments
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Sounds like a neutral problem, just looking for my manual. will post the colours later once i've found it.
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The 96 (and all 1G B6/12) uses little light bulbsfor the idiot lights and backlighting. Since the tach light works and not the speedo, that may just be a bulb issue. The other lights may be bulbs or a shorted/open in the harness. Look around the steering head and under the tank for wear on the wire bundles.
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No the tach and lights don't work also the light on the Speedo is not lit I checked the bulbs in the instrument panel and all look good its def not a bad bulbs
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OK, I see that now. Just misread it the first time, I guess.
Def sounds like a wire prob then!
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I've had this problem myself and you can find it under the black wire cover. I unplugged the harness and removed the gage cluster and fixed it on the bench. Half way up the wire cover you'll find a connection thats made just bad.
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I've had this problem myself and you can find it under the black wire cover. I unplugged the harness and removed the gage cluster and fixed it on the bench. Half way up the wire cover you'll find a connection thats made just bad.
the wire harness looked ok did not seam to have any lose wires on them at least the ones that you take off to remove the cluster
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On my 98 1200, I have a fuse that keeps blowing. When it blows, I have no netual light or back lighten for the tack or speedo, and because my shift light is tied in to this same circuit, the shift light doesn't work. Have not had time to look for the problem.
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chupacabra,are you saying that there's connection in the harness, halfway up it....that's covered by the black plastic stuff?
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This has come up in here before, it took me a long time to find it. I never would of looked under the wire cover till I read some posts on BanditAlley :beers:
http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=73
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Thanks!
:duh: :beers: :bigok:
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Water gets in the wire cover from the top and its taped at the bottom :duh: not to smart IMHO
But yes its been talked about before .
I took pictures when I fixed mine but can't find them :sad:
Just pull the gages off and cut that cover you'll find it right there, halfway between the gages and the harness plug. :beers:
Dave
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well looks like i have to take off the cluster agen :duh: but if this works its all for the good id hate to see him win Ratbike to years in a row :motorsmile:
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well looks like I got all the gages and lights working now.
:banana: some one cut the leads in the harness and no they did not just come out they looked cut so every thing is working. how ever now it seams the lights dim and get brighter depending on the RPM. Is this normal on the G1 B600
:duh:
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All lights are changing intensity when you rev the engine?
(headlight, as well as the tach/speedo light?)
Are you having to jump start the bike to get it running?
Do you have a multimeter, or some way to read the voltage at the battery with the bike running?
(They're like $4 at Harbor Freight.)
There could be a loose connection at the battery terminals, bad cable...bad battery....bad ground......alternator sucks...voltage regulator sucks, etc.
Luckily, you can eliminate most of this crap by trouble shooting a bit....
Hey, you found the screwed up wire. You'll figure out this, better yet, let MR RATBIKE learn the intricacies of his new bike! :monkeymoon: :motorsmile:
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Hey now Pete...If he wants to mess around with it let him be! To answer your question about the lights, yes all of them brighten up when I rev it. Also, there is no problem with starting the bike. The battery was supposedly replaced last year so I would tend to believe it isn't that. Although she could have put the wrong battery in it or it was just not a good battery to begin with.
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Hmmm.....
Possibly the regulator is bad. There's a way to check it in the Haynes manual, but it's kind of involved, and you'd need a variable output power supply.
(Not something most of us have around, unless you play with electronics....)
I'm guessing if the bike is cranking ok, and the battery isn't dying when the bike is parked for more than a few hours...the battery and alternator are ok.
Are the lights really dim at night when the bike is idling, or do they seem normal, and still brighten up when you rev it?
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Rode the bike home last night and the lights in the speedo and tach went out before I even noticed whether they were actually on or not. The headlight seems to go from slightly less than normal to normal when riding. Roamr looked at it and he said that part looked fine. I think the next thing we are going to try is a relay to the gauge lights and possibly a switch when we hook up some fog lights possibly this weekend.
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I had almost the very same problem on a 1996 600 S. Here's the fix. If you follow the wire cluster out of the idiot light cluster about six or seven inches down you will find four small grey wires crimped into one grey wire. You should check for corroded connection there. They may look connected but most probably are corroded and making bad contact. In my case it was another group of wires in the same location. My idiot lights AND my Tach lights all have an Orange w/Green stripe wire, again three of these run down about seven inches and are crimped into one. This is where problem was. I cut and re-spliced them together and BINGO all lights work! I just fixed this problem this week. Good Luck :banana:
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:banana: Ratbike the II is now up and running after fixxing the wires and replacing a fues :banana: