Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 650 and 1250 - WATER COOLED TECHNICAL => Topic started by: ywgbandit on October 10, 2011, 07:51:59 PM
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I recently bought a Delkevic slip on and I really like it.... not just for the money, it's of good quality and sounds great (baffle removed). I would like to improve the breathing more, but I don't want to mess with the factory header, or gut the cat. I would like to keep the factory pipe "factory" just incase they crack down on the emissions thing. The factory header is a pipe inside a pipe set up and is super restrictive. I have only found a couple of companies that make headers for the 1250 Bandit (please let me know if you know of others). One is Arrow, not the best looking IMO, and the other is Holeshot's...very nice, excellent finish, but pricey. I contacted Delkevic and they said that they had plans for one "on the back burner". I think they might speed up the availability if there were more of a demand. If anyone else is interested, fire them off an e-mail and tell them.... couldn't hurt.
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I thought Hindle made a full system for the Bandit 1250...but after searching their site, they have the Headers for the Bandit 600/650/1200 SACS engines and the water cooled 650, but NOT the 1250...funny, I would have thought these was a lot more call for a full exhaust on the 4th gen 1250 vs. the 650?
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I found that kind of weird too.
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Just got this reply from Delkevic UK:
"Hello Donald,
Thank you for your interest in Delkevic products, the GSF1250 is Currently under development!...about 3-6 months maybe!!, if you could send us another mail the other side of new year for an update please.
Kind Regards.
Ron."
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Bump this one.
Any news with these?
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Nothing yet, I post it as soon as I get any info on availability.
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I just got an e-mail back from Delkevic, and now they are saying 6 more months. He did suggest the pricing should be similar to the 1200 Bandit, which is $220.00 USD.
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I just got this e-mail from Luke at Delkevic USA. A few e-mails from some of us might get these headers into production a lot sooner....please forward to anyone you know who might be interested and send Luke an e-mail.
Luke:
"Here's what I do know… The UK Delkevic team has developed a sample downpipe for the 1250. Now it needs a jig made, and testing after the first one comes out.
If there is enough interest this project can be pushed to the front line, but as it is right now it's probably 8 months out.
If there is a dedicated forum post to just the Delkevic Downpipe interest, you can send me the link and I'll check out how many are actually interested, or they can email me direct.
Thanks
Luke (luke@delkevic.us)
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I'm definaitely interested.
My request is that they be made to also fit within the confines of the new GSX1250FA fairing.
Currently Arrow make a set of headers which really wake the 1250 up but they're expensive and the don't quite fit the FA. Guys have them on theirs with some mods required to the plastics but they're real happy. Also because there is no other alternative other than the Holeshot ones but they are very expensive to ship OS.
So mark me down as a WANT ONE for 1250FA! They must be stainless, decent internal diameter and must work well.
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Anyone who is interested, please sent an e-mail to Luke at Delkevic (luke@delkevic.us) if we bombard him with e-mails they my move this project to the front and it might only be a matter of a couple months, instead of 8.
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:stickpoke:
Bumping this one again.
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My uncle used to go to high school with Lange Hindle! I played ball hockey with him once as a kid, his knees were all plastic though couldn't move around so well but he played a mean game of ball hockey. The thing with the Hindle full systems is they are just awesome, but pricey. If you wanted to go with a full Hindle system you'd probably love it, but you're looking at close to a thousand dollars. I believe Delkelvich(or whatever the name is) sell just the headers up to the collector box for around $300(for the gen2) so if you already have a slip on with mid-pipe its probably a better deal. The hindle systems are basically "race ready" so I'm not too sure how loud it would be for you. Perfectly legal, but on the edge of "WTF was that!" when you scream by on the highway. But if you wanted a plug and play max horsepower system Hindle would probably be your best bet. Since I will be probably getting the next gen(4) Bandit within a few years I hope the delkelvich people get on it sooner than later.
As far as the emission BS, phuck em. If you have a power commander you can just make a "barely run to get past emissions map" and go for the test. We're lucky in Canada motorcycles are exempt so I can convert my Bandit to coal power anytime I want :grin:
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I have been sending an e-mail once every 2 weeks to Delkevic...they must be sick of me because they quit responding. they said around September.
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Update!!!
Just got this from the Delkevic people today (July 2nd, 2012):
Me to Delkevic: "Do you have any idea as to when the headers for the Suzuki GSF 1250 Bandit will be available?"
Delkevic: "We are dyno testing at the moment . It maybe 2-3 more weeks. Thanks".
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Any update on theses headers? Curiosity is getting to me :grin:
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They should be available online by the middle of Aug, 2012 for approx. $280.00+shipping according to the e-mail they sent me a week ago.
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I got an e-mail from Delkevic...testing completed, jigs made and some parts made, but the numbers aren't in the catalogue yet...2-3 weeks. Which really means a month!
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There Here!!
I got the first ones off the assembly line, shipped direct to me from the factory. Available from Delkevic USA…send them an e-mail to Luke Padilla (luke.delkevic@gmail.com>) to order. $299.99 plus shipping. Overall I'm very impressed....good quality stainless and good welds. There are a few tool marks from where the clamps held the tubing to make the bend, but they aren't horrible and they are priced accordingly. They look good! I will keep you all updated as to installation fit as I go along.
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Very disappointed! I just sent back the second set of headers to Delkevic. They were a much worse fit than the first ones. Spring is coming and I probably won't wait for them to iron out the kinks. Looks like I'll buy a set of Dale's from Holeshot. Pricey, but least I know they will fit!
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The same thing happened to me. First set straight from China looked great but the fit was poor. Second set from the US looked like the stainless tubes were blems and the fit was the same(poor). After many attempts and cleaning off sealent, I made a jig of wood so I could practice without beating up my bike. You have to slide the tubes out of the Collector at different lengths, and at one point they will barely line up so you can force them in plus a little beating here and their, a real PITA. I kept mine and once their on they do look good and when they turn a golden color you don't notice the defects in the tubes.
Your lucky Dale makes a set in stainless for your 1250. Mine is a 02 1200 and his headers only come in steel. I asked him if he would build me a set in stainless and pay the extra but he said no.
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I finally got the headers mounted today. The problem was that during the manufacturing process of the collector pipe itself the inside of two of the pipes had broken welding wire stuck inside. It looks like the tubing was welded from the inside and a piece of welding wire was partially fused to the inside seam, but was broken and left a little tab inside. That stopped the down pipe from penetrating all the way in. I made up a bob by cutting a slot with a hacksaw in a 3/8" bolt length wise about 2" long. I then cut off the bolt head so I could put the bob into the drill chuck. I put the bob in a drill and used an old piece of course sanding belt and spun it in side each opening of the collector to remove all the burrs and wire. Then using the supplied high temp silicone (at least that's what I think it was because there were no instructions) I was able to slip the collector onto downpipes that I had loosely mounted in the exhaust ports. Then I beat on them with a hard rubber mallet until they were inserted all the way up to the lines I had marked on the downpipes, which indicated full penetration of the downpipes into the collector.