Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 650 and 1250 - WATER COOLED TECHNICAL => Topic started by: A1A on December 01, 2007, 09:40:29 PM
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I've got a few miles now on my Bandit 1250S and fueled up 25 times or more. After owning and riding several motorcycles over the years. I have an understanding of how to fill a gas tank. Always in the past I would fill each mototcycle to just below the top of the filler neck. I always fill the tank with the bikes on the sidestand. This still allows for expansion of the fuel in the tank on hot days.
So I've been doing the same with the Bandit 1250S without any heat expansion fuel spillage. My issue is filling the tank the last 1/2 gal. or so seems to takes for ever and a day to top off.
Does anybody else have an issue filling the last 1/2 gal. of fuel to just below the top of the fuel filler neck?
I realize the Owners Manual states to stop filling the tank. When the fuel reaches the bottom of the filler neck. But I just hate to fill up that way. When I know the tank will hold about 1/2 gal. more.
Has anybody modified the fuel tank filler neck? To allow rapid fuel tank filling.
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Whenever I have trouble filling any container because of the auto stop feature on the filler nozzle, I just pull back on the shroud that sniffs the gas and bring it all the way back and I can fill or even overflow any container. I used to be a habitual top off addict until I got certified as a hazmat coordinator and leaned that touching and especially breathing benzine is a very toxic carcinogen.
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Although I haven't fuelled up my bike in two months I always put it on the center stand and when the nozzle klicks off I pull it out to just above that silly plate in the filler neck and squeeze the last bit into the tank.
I usually fill it to above that plate that way I am full and can go as long as I wan't or untill the next fuel stop I usually put in 15 to 18 liters. If it's on the side stand it's on an angle and there might still be room for fuel on the high side, just the way I do it.
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+1 using the center stand, a must.
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I appreciate the feedback guys. I just think the plate is a PITA!
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I sit on the bike and fill the tank, I never get off unless I am out on the road and have to pee :grin: I fill it to the plate in the neck unless traveling then I top it off up into the neck, it''l burn it off soon enough IMO.
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I don't know about the 1250, but on my 2G B12, it doesn't make any appreciable difference in how much gas it will take if it is filled on the C'stand or the side stand.
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Let me consult my mailorder ASC certifications and I'll get back to ya :thumb:
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Oops stand by fellas, we may have gotten this whole thing wrong. By the way Ranger haven't seen you in a while welcome back.
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book says only fill to bottom of pipe in neck: I think it protects carbon canister from liquid gas[which would ruin it],
Wally
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I don't know about the 1250, but on my 2G B12, it doesn't make any appreciable difference in how much gas it will take if it is filled on the C'stand or the side stand.
ibid. I am reading this and wondering why it would be worth using the centerstand just to get another six ounces of gas into the tank.
Roy, I have to laugh at your post. Yeah, I'll sometimes fill up astraddle, even though the safety guides say it's a bad idea. But sometimes after a couple hours of riding, getting off to fill up is a welcome excuse to unlock my knees for a couple minutes. I tend to forget to drink enough fluids, so offloading fluids if often less of a problem than is healthy.
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I sit on the bike and fill the tank, I never get off unless I am out on the road and have to pee :grin: I fill it to the plate in the neck unless traveling then I top it off up into the neck, it''l burn it off soon enough IMO.
2 things, if you never got off, how do you pay for your petrol, and in the land of Oz if you try to fill up your bike while sitting on it, the attendant won't 'turn' the pump on.
If I'm filling up and going for a decent ride then I'll fill it so it is just over the 'lip', but if I'm just doing a normal weekly fill up then I fill it to just below the 'lip'. Why the difference, basically I'm sick of people coming up to me on a hot day and saying "hey mate, you know you're bikes leaking fuel"
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I sit on the bike and fill the tank, I never get off unless I am out on the road and have to pee :grin: I fill it to the plate in the neck unless traveling then I top it off up into the neck, it''l burn it off soon enough IMO.
2 things, if you never got off, how do you pay for your petrol, and in the land of Oz if you try to fill up your bike while sitting on it, the attendant won't 'turn' the pump on.
If I'm filling up and going for a decent ride then I'll fill it so it is just over the 'lip', but if I'm just doing a normal weekly fill up then I fill it to just below the 'lip'. Why the difference, basically I'm sick of people coming up to me on a hot day and saying "hey mate, you know you're bikes leaking fuel"
The pumps here have a swiping card reader so there's no need to get off the bike if you won't want to...
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Although I do always like to get off after 200 miles to fill up. The B1250 has made for allot less stiffness compared to my B1200 IMHO. Also getting the bike on the canter stand just makes for a more stable and safer situation IMHO.
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Although I do always like to get off after 200 miles to fill up. The B1250 has made for allot less stiffness compared to my B1200 IMHO. Also getting the bike on the canter stand just makes for a more stable and safer situation IMHO.
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I use the centerstand for added support. I also lift the pump shroud to fill until content. I fill it right to the bottom of the neck.
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+1 on the centrestand to fill 'er up....for the reasons stated by others.
If you look at the anti-overflow neck piece, you'll notice a small hole drilled in it near the top. If you want to be able to fill the last part of the tank faster, you COULD enlarge that hole somewhat.....although you would be defeating its purpose.
My neck piece still has the stock hole and I intend on leaving it that way. Yes, it takes more time to fill that last little bit of space but I'm never in that much of a rush anyway, even on the road.
With an absolutely full tank (almost to the top of the neck piece) I can go for about 150 - 155 miles (250 kms) of "normal" riding on my SACS engined G3 before the low fuel indicator starts nagging me.
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Is this anti-overflow neck piece the reason why you can fill it above the plate, watch the fuel settle down below the plate, fill it above again, watch it settle down again, ...and repeat the process several times.
If so, it's annoying that an already small tank range is complicated by a safety device that hampers the tank from being quickly filled to the brim.
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Yeah, that is pretty much the drill, fill, watch, fill, watch. :rant2: I had a BMW GS Adventure that was the same way, not quite as bad actually, but you had to cycle 5 or 6 times to get if full. The Bandit is probably +10 to get it full. There is a thread at advrider.com on how to drill out the hole so you don't have to cycle so many times, if at all.
Tim
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I had drilled out the filler neck vents on my R1150GSa and removed the fuel canister. One problem I did have was when stopping and filling up for the night ( so I would not have to wait for stations to open in the morning ), the engine would heat the fuel up and let it run out the vent hose making a wet spot on the ground. I had to remember not to fill it up all the way.
I'll probably end up doing this to the GXFer 12.5.
An other thing on the R1150 was if you overfilled with the canister stuff still intact, gas would get into the canister and it would run really rough for several miles until the gas was cleaned out of the pollution stuff.
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How many Bandit riders does it take to fill a gas tank!! :duh: :bandit: :grin: