Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 650 and 1250 - WATER COOLED TECHNICAL => Topic started by: jamala00 on October 02, 2008, 09:39:32 AM
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I just purchased this slip-on for my 07 1250.. I would guess there are a few of you that already have this slip-on.
Just curious if you followed the instructions to a T, or if you had to do anything not in the instructions..? Also, would
you suggest getting a tuning box and remapping the fuel, or am I good with just the slip-on?
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When I installed my Yosh R-77, I just removed the stocker, put the bump stop on the new pipe, put some high temp gasket sealant on the connection, and hooked it up. The hardest part was getting the damn rubber gasket on the mufller hanger band.
You don't need a tune, but you'll get some decel popping if you don't plug the PAIR line.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/tmr1085/pipe.jpg)
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Thanks for the reply. I actually just put this on. I did not put any high temp gasket sealant. I really followed the instructions exactly. What is the PAIR line? Where is it located?
I have to say, the TRS is much lighter then the stock, but when cruising I can't really tell the difference between
the TRS and the stock... Exceleration is a little deeper and throatier, but not much..
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You can get the plug from Holeshot Performance. It's included if you purchase their TFI box. Here is the link. http://www.holeshot.com/Bandit_1250/1250tfi_installation.html
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Excellent.. Thanks.. I'll keep that as a note. I have not experienced any decel popping at all yet. If I do,
I will at least know why, and will install this plug. Did you intall a tuning box also? Or do yo just have the Yosh
R-77? What is the sound of yours over stock on excel and cruising?
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I don't mean to take a sale away from HoleShot. But you can go to any Hardware Store and pick up a 3/8" inch tapered rubber plug. Which slips into the Pair hose to eliminate exhaust popping on deccel.
It's my opinon, but I don't think it is necessary to remap the fuel system. After installing an aftermarlet slip-on muffler.
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Ya, I actaully was just out bumbing around.. I was taking my bike up to 6000+ RPMs and then just letting off the gas.
I am not experiencing any decel popping. So for now I think I will just leave well enough alone. I know holeshot has some
audio clips of his exhaust, but I wish I had my bike and one with the holeshot to hear the difference. Audio files don't always give the exact picture. I listend to one of the TRS on YouTube, but I think it is quite different in person...
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Ya, I actaully was just out bumbing around.. I was taking my bike up to 6000+ RPMs and then just letting off the gas.
I am not experiencing any decel popping. So for now I think I will just leave well enough alone. I know holeshot has some
audio clips of his exhaust, but I wish I had my bike and one with the holeshot to hear the difference. Audio files don't always give the exact picture. I listend to one of the TRS on YouTube, but I think it is quite different in person...
did you take out the quiet insert on your trs ?
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No, I didn't even know that was an option.... How do you take that out.. I wouldn't mind seeing what it sounds like with it out.
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No, I didn't even know that was an option.... How do you take that out.. I wouldn't mind seeing what it sounds like with it out.
look in the noisy end of the pipe . see one or two screws ? take them out and pull out the inner sleeve :thumb:. Mark
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Well I just went out and checked. There is one screw on the bottom of the exhaust. I took that out, and a 5" or so
insert came out. Ya, its louder. I'll have to take it for a ride if it warms up here and see what the difference really is.
I want to get Dale's TFI and stage 1 tune-up to go with it, but there is not enough riding time left this year in WI.
Spring...!!
Thanks.. I don't recall that even being in the install instructions..
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Thanks.. I don't recall that even being in the install instructions..
:beers:
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With the B1250's smooth performance box stock, I have been reluctant to make any modifications. The only reason I am considering a slim RS3 Yosh can to replace the stock tree truck exhaust, is because I keep burning and branding my right leg calf and I have the nasty pyramid scare to prove it. The same thing would occasionally happen on my B1200 when backing up strattling the bike but the slimmer can took care of the problem permanently. Still debating between the new can and future leg branding.
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By not blocking of the PAIR line and getting popping noises like I do, Is it harmfull to the engine like valves etc?
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No. It's just vapors burning off in the pipe.
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Here is a little flyby with the Yosh TRS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9SpCTlJ_8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9SpCTlJ_8)
It was cold and I have not posted before on the tube. It's pretty much over when I come back around. Pass by at about 8K rpms.
Mark
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehxxZXp8iQI
yosh fly by
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Well with spring here and temps in the 70's I finally decided to buy a the basic SS Yosh RS3 oval slip-on for $280 including free shipping. The main reason as mentioned to keep from branding my right leg, pants and boots when dressing casual on warm days. Now once again I can straddle the bike and walk backwards without branding my right calf with 2nd degree burns. I know, I know why am I wearing shorts and T-shirts? Just suffice it to say that I still wear all the other protective gear which includes knee pads and elbow pads.
What I didn't expect is the small boost in power, acceleration and responsiveness which has encouraged me to consider the removal of my secondary flies but I will wait until I get another manometer that I sold because an authority on this sight told me that with the B1250 I would never need one again, Grrrr. But that will be about it and I don't mind the rumble back firing on decel as it reminds me of the old euro roasters of the 70's when back fire rumble was popular. Oh I almost forgot to mention that the midpipe and slip-on provided fit excellent with OEM hard cases with actually more clearance then with OEM. The trick is to leave everything loose and position the mid pipe and slip on for max clearance from both the hard case and swing arm. Tightening down the midpipe first and then muscle in the can. In fact it fits so well I will post a pic tomorrow as it is too dark out now, but there is absolutely no reason to waste your money for a "made for hardcase slip-on" when you can get a much higher quality SS Yosh RS3 to work just fine while saving $100.
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Over on max zuki there is a ECU hack that is the same as removing the secondarys but with no torq loss.
http://www.maximum-suzuki.com/forums/index.php/topic,68731.100.html
Page 5 shows the position of the secondarys and why the bandit (stock) has no top end.
Mark
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Thanks, haven't been keeping up with this ECU project but it looks like its almost at the stage where it will be dyno run tested for plug and play use. As for the secondaries I had no idea people were experiencing loss of low end, although in my case havering not installed a TFI remapping, air box mod, and new headers eliminating the CAT (something I will not be doing), I find it hard to believe that removal of the secondary's with just a can change and lower heat range spark plugs will not improve my low end LOL. No I don't plan on gutting this bike like my 05, just help it breath and perform a little better then stock and as close to legal as possible and at very minimal extra cost. Beside you know the old engineers warning: " The more you overhaul new plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain"