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Offline rspector

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« on: May 08, 2006, 11:09:14 AM »
I have a 2005 bandit 1200, was thinking about the top end oiler to hopefully quiet the valves down a little bit, Any one have any expierence with the one from hole shot. What are the pros/cons ?

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Re: top end oiler
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2006, 12:14:49 PM »
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I have a 2005 bandit 1200, was thinking about the top end oiler to hopefully quiet the valves down a little bit, Any one have any expierence with the one from hole shot. What are the pros/cons ?
Are the 05's that noisy? My 98 has no or very little sound from the valve train! (in spec) maybe like a worn out car, just turn up the radio and ride it like you stole it!!!  A yoshi slip on is a nice fix. I know that wasn't your question but i doubt more oil will do the trick.

Offline kedeg_97B12

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Re: top end oiler
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2006, 02:00:47 PM »
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I have a 2005 bandit 1200, was thinking about the top end oiler to hopefully quiet the valves down a little bit, Any one have any expierence with the one from hole shot. What are the pros/cons ?


This is a engine based on a 80's design. Nothing going to quiet them down. :wink:
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Offline Vee Dub Nut

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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2006, 02:14:35 PM »
hahaha.. sometimes I swear my engine is going to come apart any minute. They are noisey, but ive wondered if this would help myself..
Adam in College Station Texas

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Offline Mini4x

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2006, 02:57:17 PM »
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hahaha.. sometimes I swear my engine is going to come apart any minute. They are noisey, but ive wondered if this would help myself..


Whats the adjust interval on the B12 anyways?

I like the idea of the top end oiler, mines a bit noisy too, but it's got 15k on it and maybe it needs a valve adjust.

I say you can never have too much lubrication, no matter what.

Offline rspector

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2006, 02:58:17 PM »
I had a 1980 gs1100 that was very loud, this bike is not as loud but def noticable at a stop light. I can't put a slip on/jet kit in because my dealer says it will void the warentee. This is right after a fresh valve adjustment with less then 3000 miles on the bike, Man I can't imagine how loud the motor is when the valves loosen up

Offline 99er

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2006, 04:11:57 PM »
Normal for the machine. Mine were tight when I did the adjust at the first 600 miles. After that, they rattled more but I was sure of teh adjustment. The SHO in the driveway has 32 nice noisy valves. Wear plugs - you have to with Bandit wind noise.
Marc/Atlanta

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2006, 11:29:01 AM »
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I can't put a slip on/jet kit in because my dealer says it will void the warentee. This is right after a fresh valve adjustment with less then 3000 miles on the bike, Man I can't imagine how loud the motor is when the valves loosen up


It won't void the warranty in the USA. Can't say about other countries though.

Typically, Bandits get tighter, not looser, as they break in. The valves usually stay pretty stable after the 7500 mile mark... but it is recommended by Suzuki to check them every 7500 miles. Personally, I do it annually (~10K miles) and haven't had to adjust anything since the 7500 mile second check.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2006, 12:18:57 PM »
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I can't put a slip on/jet kit in because my dealer says it will void the warentee. This is right after a fresh valve adjustment with less then 3000 miles on the bike, Man I can't imagine how loud the motor is when the valves loosen up


It won't void the warranty in the USA. Can't say about other countries though.

Typically, Bandits get tighter, not looser, as they break in. The valves usually stay pretty stable after the 7500 mile mark... but it is recommended by Suzuki to check them every 7500 miles. Personally, I do it annually (~10K miles) and haven't had to adjust anything since the 7500 mile second check.
  Yep what Red01 said and he has a gazillion miles on his with no adj!!! (subject to varification of owner) We kill these bikes with kindness, i bet there has been more torn down for stripped oil drain plugs than anything else!!! Slip on street core won't require fuel adj in most cases!! Most noise when the valves are adj or most clearance!! You want a bike to worry about/pamper/adjust/repair/pick up from shop & take back the same day??? Get a Duc!!! Prob's are never under warranty!  :duh:  :banana:  :motorsmile:  :beers:

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2006, 12:31:54 PM »
Engine noise is engine noise.  Doesn't bother me.  I would guess that a water cooled engine would be quieter, yes?  The water muffling the sound maybe?

Add water cooling!  :grin:

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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2006, 12:39:03 PM »
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Engine noise is engine noise.  Doesn't bother me.  I would guess that a water cooled engine would be quieter, yes?  The water muffling the sound maybe?

Add water cooling!  :grin:
The liquid cooled eng doesn't need as much clearance because the temp variations are less! My new one isn't due a Valve adj (check) for 17k. Air cooling isn't a sure thing, so wider or sloppier clearances!!  Still bullet proof and sweet with a slip on tone to hid the ticking.... :beers:

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2006, 02:59:16 PM »
I have the Holeshot Top End Oiler on mine, I didn't notice any change in sound when I put it on. :motorsmile:
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2006, 03:50:28 PM »
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I have the Holeshot Top End Oiler on mine, I didn't notice any change in sound when I put it on. :motorsmile:


My question is did you notice anything at all for the cost of that thing?

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2006, 05:21:21 PM »
Hopefully not, since as I understand it, it's function is to keep the top end oiled better at high rpm.
Paul
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2006, 05:27:58 PM »
I have been dragracing these engines every since they they came out without a top end oiler, but with the thoughts of running the Texas Mile, I decided to spend $200.00 as a little insurance.
The first pass down the dragstrip after installing the oiler kit, one of the lines came loose and sprayed oil all over my leg and boots :duh:
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