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Offline Vee Dub Nut

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Katana 750 Swap
« on: June 12, 2005, 01:17:01 AM »
Well i just finished swaping the 01 Kat 750 motor into my 96 B6s. Everything went really well, im planning on doing a write up of some sort with pics in a few days. Hopefully it will help answer some questions for others who may decide to go down that route, as i found very little info on the swap. All the wiring was a direct plug and play except for the alternator, wired in the same but the connectors were different, the only soldering i had to do all day.

Just some info, right now i am running 105 mains and two shims with the B6 carbs, and its running great so far. After i do a valve adjustment and sync tomorrow, i will get a better feel whether or not im going to have to go up some more on the mains. After all was bolted in, bumped the starter and it roared to life. Couldnt ask for an easier swap...

Second impressions will come tomorrow when i can get it out on the road some and feel it out, but so far so good.

Midswap pic, and finished pic









(props to my buddy anton, thanks for sticking with me today! It was well worth it in the end)
Adam in College Station Texas

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Offline dsartwell1

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2005, 08:22:22 AM »
Nice job! Are there any indications there is a 750 in there or does it look the same as it did. I'm sure more than a few people will be suprised how quick that "600" is. :beers:

Offline Vee Dub Nut

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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 11:03:52 AM »
Just looking at the outside.. you cant tell.. total sleeper  :motorsmile:
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Offline dsartwell1

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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2005, 02:22:20 PM »
Sweet! When I'm ready, maybe I'll go that route instead of buying another larger bike. I'll be real interested in hearing your impression of the finished product.

Offline B6Matt

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2005, 10:54:15 PM »
Did the motor come with Kat carbs?

I'm anxious to hear how it run when you take it  out.  That motor looks a little different than a B6 motor because of the color.  Did you use the B6 header?
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Offline Vee Dub Nut

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2005, 12:04:17 AM »
Ok.. second day impressions...

I put on a total of 50 miles on this afternoon after a valve adjustment and carb sync. (i know its kinda pathetic, all i had time to ride today)

Well does it have more power you ask? Yes. You can feel more torque down around 4-6k than the 600 had, very usable power around town in traffic. The power feels more linear and seems to pull very nicely from down lower than the 6. The engine doesnt feel peaky like the old one did. The 600 you could feel a definate power surge around 7k, the 750 seems to pull hard from lower without any surges all the way to redline. I did a top gear roll on from 70, it pulled to about 125 at 10k very quickly, had to shut her down, i was making good ground on the guy in front of me.

Im still using the B6 header. Larry do you think the 12 header makes that much difference? I may have to look into that down the road.

Im using the 600 32mm carbs.. Running 105 mains, two shims and two and a quarter turns out i believe. I think im going to have to go up on the mains another step, maybe try 107.5 or 110s. I think there is still more power to be had from the top end with some more tuning. Planning a dyno run in the future to see what im putting to the ground. The intake boots on the 750 where larger than the 600 since it had larger carbs, but they where in better condition than my 10 year old 600 ones. The bigger ones will clam down enough for the smaller carbs if you use the smaller 600 clamps, the carbs dont snap into the boots like the used to, but i have no vaccume leaks so far. I will be keeping an eye on them though.

There is definately a difference in power, I cant imagine what you b12 guys must feel when riding yours! makes me cant wait till i get out of college and can afford the 12. Over all i think the power increase coupled with the light weight and very flikable 600 chassis should make a great road bike. Next mod is suspension.

Write up to come soon with pics!
Adam in College Station Texas

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2005, 12:05:44 AM »
Quote from: "B6Matt"
Did the motor come with Kat carbs?

I'm anxious to hear how it run when you take it  out.  That motor looks a little different than a B6 motor because of the color.  Did you use the B6 header?


Unfortunatley i didnt get the Kat carbs with the motor. They are slightly bigger, but if the B6 carbs are tuned correctly, there should be very little power loss there. Check my above post for more carb specifics
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2005, 01:10:03 AM »
Couldn't you have used the B6 alternator for a total plug-n-play electrically?
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2005, 01:13:21 AM »
Quote from: "Red01"
Couldn't you have used the B6 alternator for a total plug-n-play electrically?


Probley, i didnt feel like switcing it out for fear of the gears not being the same... Plus i think the amprage on the kat alternator is a tad bigger. I only had to solder two new connections on the end of my harness.. not bad at all...
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2005, 11:16:46 PM »
Nice project, that is quite a sleeper. The 750 should have much more grunt than the 600. 32mm carbs are small for a 750 to really make power though, Early air/oil GSXR flatslides (34 or 36mm) would really do the trick.

I have had 34mm GSXR flatslides (off 1986 GSXR1100) on my '83 GS750 since the late 1980's. They were much better than the stock 32mm Mikuni's and will bolt right up to the stock intake boots. I ran a stage3 DJ kit and pod filters with them-they made really good power and were very streetable. Good Luck, Ed.

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2005, 03:21:08 PM »
Nice job on the swap. It's going to add years of enjoyment.
I have a set of RS34mm "flatslide" carbs for sale. Make offer.
Also Bandit 750 in the bikes for sale section.
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