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Offline karl

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« on: January 13, 2007, 07:39:08 PM »
right. seeing as the gsf750 bandit engine is a "de-tuned" GSX-R 750 engine (slab side model)...

what are the actual differences between them. as i'm itching to get more power from mine. lol.

anyone know? thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 06:41:56 AM »
I'm guessing you have a KATANA or GSXR 750 motor in a Bandit 600 frame......I could be wrong.  I've never heard of a Bandit 750, but know that some guys have done that  KATANA 750 or GSXR 750 transplant. There is no replacement for displacement. Sale the 750 and get a 1200. :banana:
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 06:43:17 AM »
no, its a genuine gsf750.

its a japanese import.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2007, 04:03:25 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 01:24:47 PM »
The 750 Bandit was a Japanese market only bike. They do show up in other countries where gray imports are allowed - like the UK, Oz, etc.

The only specs I could find on the B7.5 are for the '96 model. I doubt there were any changes for follow-on years though. The power specs for the '96 Bandit 750 are 77 hp (57 kW) @ 9,000 rpm & 6.5 kg-m @ 7,000 rpm.

FWIW - the '96 B6 puts out 77 hp (57 kW) @ 10,500 rpm & 54 Nm @ 9,500 rpm.

The 85-91 GSX-R750's put out 106-120 hp @ 10,500-11,000 and 64-68 Nm @ 6000-7000 RPM depending on model & year.

The '98 GSX750 Inazuma (same engine family as the Bandit) put out 86 hp (63 kW)/ 9,500 rpm and 67.1 Nm/ 8,500.

The '98 GSX750F Katana (again, same engine family) put out 92 hp (67.2 kW) @ 10,500 rpm and 64.70 Nm (6.6 kg-m) @ 9,500 rpm.

(Specs courtesy of http://www.suzukicycles.org/index.html )

Differences between your Bandit motor and the early GSX-R would be cams, lower compression & smaller carbs. The early GSXR 750's came in two versions, long and short stroke. The Bandit, Katana & Inazuma are based on the long stroke version. The most powerful of the first generation GSX-R750s, the 120 hp limited production 89-90 GSX-R750R (Double-R) was also a long stroke motor.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 03:21:10 PM »
and what you think mines likely to be with a viper can, down geared sprokets. and i'm about to to do the ignition advancer and remove the air box snorkel.

would it be a case of swapping the cams? or would it require mod/anything else?
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 04:55:13 PM »
The cams would help, but you're not going to see GSX-R levels without bumping the compression up and slipping on bigger carbs. IIRC, the Double R has a better cylinder head, too.

The Viper can and snorkelectomy should be done in conjuction with a rejetting - or at least a little fine tuning. I'd speculate a 5-10 hp increase.

The gearing down change won't change hp, but it will make it feel like it due to the increased snappiness it provides.
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