Author Topic: Exhaust Dilemma (Read 6034 times)

rikpotts · « **on:** May 29, 2006, 09:52:21 AM »

Hi everyone,
congrats on a great forum, ive been reading posts here for a while now but this is my first :)

My insurance and MOT ran out yesterday so I took it for a last spin down the back roads. Unfortunatly I blew a hole in the exhaust so needless to say it wont pass the MOT.

Can someone help me decide what I will need to fix the problem. Ive got a pic here....
www.triplextoy.co.uk/IMG_8144.jpg
sorry its 800kb

The hole is where the rust is. Is this rusty bit part of the down pipes or is it the bit that joins the down pipes to the can? Either way am I right in the thinking I need both the down pipes and the joining bit?

I might as well get a race can at the same time but I would like to be able to offer the original can when I eventually sell it.

What is the best way to go about this?

This bike has been nothing but a pain in the arse, first the guy who had it before me over tightened the valve cover bolts and ripped the threads out so they had to be helicoiled, then the oil cooler sprung a leak (in standstill traffic on the motorway 30 miles from home. I was going so slow filtering through the traffic oil was turned to smoke by the engine, I thought the thing was going to ignite between my legs!) Then the brakes seized only to find the guy who had it before had removed the caliper pistons using mole grips and had put dints all over them. And now the exhaust.

Seanybiker · « **Reply #1 on:** May 30, 2006, 10:30:27 PM »

Get a mate to weld it or just buy a new can. Presuming your english cos the MOT. get a nice scorpion can for yourself.

Cruisecontrol · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2006, 02:43:22 AM »

A new can is not going to fix the hole in the collector.

http://www.banditmania.co.uk/ExhaustWork.htm
Banditmania has a collector box repair kit that might be worth a look at.

rikpotts · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2006, 10:14:35 AM »

Thanks for your replies.
Im going to pull the whole thing apart in a minute but have been looking at the different options. Ideally I would like to loose the all-in-one system and go for bolt on parts.

I have found somewhere everything I need at a great price, second hand, the only thing is that its for a '96 bandit. Mine is a 2000 UK model (the y model I think)

Does anybody know if this will fit? Its over the internet you see so I cant go and have a look first.

Many Thanks
Rik

Red01 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2006, 11:22:55 AM »

If you're talking exhausts, they'll interchange.

solman · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2006, 11:31:04 PM »

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Mine is a 2000 UK model

And the Pipe is already rusting that bad?

Red01 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2006, 10:38:06 AM »

Seems to be typical of bikes in the UK. Not just Bandits, either. Has to do with the damp climate of the UK. Being on an island surrounded by salt water doesn't help any either.

B6mick · « **Reply #7 on:** June 04, 2006, 07:05:06 AM »

Quote from: Red01

Seems to be typical of bikes in the UK. Not just Bandits, either. Has to do with the damp climate of the UK. Being on an island surrounded by salt water doesn't help any either.

And not forgetting the salt they throw down on the road to keep the ice under control. Just to wreck everything even quicker.

Kickstart · « **Reply #8 on:** June 04, 2006, 08:01:31 AM »

Quote from: rikpotts

Im going to pull the whole thing apart in a minute but have been looking at the different options. Ideally I would like to loose the all-in-one system and go for bolt on parts.

Think it is the same kind of setup as the 1200, so where it has rusted is the join from the from section to the link pipe.

All the best

Keith

Daytona · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2006, 11:33:56 AM »

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="rikpotts"] Unfortunatly I blew a hole in the exhaust so needless to say it wont pass the MOT.

Can someone help me decide what I will need to fix the problem. Ive got a pic here....
www.triplextoy.co.uk/IMG_8144.jpg
sorry its 800kb

The hole is where the rust is. Is this rusty bit part of the down pipes or is it the bit that joins the down pipes to the can? Either way am I right in the thinking I need both the down pipes and the joining bit?

Wow the corrosion on it is Bad, worse than any i've seen. A S sTeel exhaust band clamp from any good parts store will fix it. There is also heat set compound that works well under the clamp for a airtight seal. Other than that welding of a new flang, got to be off though. Keep up the post's.

rikpotts · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2006, 10:53:33 PM »

I pulled it off and the thing was clean split in two. Im surprised I didnt get a small hole first. It just all went within a 2hr ride. Did give it some welly I must say but never the less!

Here is a picture of the bike from the start of sept '05
www.triplextoy.co.uk/173-7316_IMG.JPG
It looks fine, so does the HEL oil cooler which is now gone too :(

The acceleration in corrosion has got to be down to the grit they throw on the roads. Needless to say I dont ride the thing in the ice (maybe once or twice after getting caught out) so it must have been the left over grit the morning after. I spent many an hour or two keeping the chain from going rusty. I swore after the winter Id never ride when the roads have been salted again! This sets that in stone!
I rode a cg125 for 2 years before this and I dodnt have any problems with that at all. In fact new brakes shoes and valves clearance adjustment is all that nike needed!

Im waiting for a reply from bandit mania, I want know what they charge postage wise. Ive fallen out the the two local bike places round here.

rikpotts · « **Reply #11 on:** June 08, 2006, 02:41:21 PM »

Ive just spotted a link pipe on ebay..... it doesnt seem to have a rubber stopper (for the centre stand) nor the bracket a bolt screws into right at the bottom near the condenser.

Will this pipe be a no go? I suppose I can sacrifice the centre stand but is that bracket a must? I kind of think "no" simply because it isnt there! but though Id check before I splash the cash.

Many Thanks

Daytona · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2006, 02:19:10 AM »

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="rikpotts"]Ive just spotted a link pipe on ebay..... it doesnt seem to have a rubber stopper (for the centre stand) nor the bracket a bolt screws into right at the bottom near the condenser.

Will this pipe be a no go? I suppose I can sacrifice the centre stand but is that bracket a must? I kind of think "no" simply because it isnt there! but though Id check before I splash the cash. Many Thanks

Yes bumper is needed if you want to keep your stand. Looks to me that the midpipe won't help you any cause your collector which has the female part of that connection rusted away! Band clamp it or if you have the entire thing off take it to the weld shop and have it welded solid. or a new entire system which ever. The S Steel band clamp will work just fine and is about $6.00 @ any good parts store.

Red01 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 09, 2006, 11:50:54 AM »

Some of the aftermarket mid-pipes don't have the little tab you're talking about, nor the centerstand stop. For instance, Holeshot's mid-pipes have never had the tab, and a couple of years ago, they quit putting the centerstand stop on them. Holeshot does sell a bracket you can install for the centerstand stop.

But if the collector is rotten, you need to fix/replace that first.

Bezzer · « **Reply #14 on:** June 09, 2006, 07:59:12 PM »

You need either the Banditmania collector repair job
http://www.banditmania.co.uk/ExhaustWork.htm
or for a cheaper way find a local stainless steel welder and get him to put a replacement piece of 60mm(I think) stainless tube to replace the POS mild steel piece.