Author Topic: Lost my chain and now I'm losing oil constantly!!! (Read 7782 times)

sputnik378 · « **on:** July 21, 2006, 06:27:24 AM »

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Check out the pictures and look at the little hole in front of the front sprocket... That's where that little pin on the floor came from. I don't know its purpose, or why it even exists. However I have busted the thing off. I have a repair manual for the bike and haven't been able to find what the thing is even called.

The why: I popped my chain off today while spinning the tire and it sheered the thing off as well as putting the hole you see in the outer casing. I don't have the slightest clue where to look for this and I think I'll start at www.bikebandits.com. But I could probably use some help finding out what the hell I am looking for.

Red01 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2006, 10:24:06 AM »

Looks like that pin should go between the clutch actuating mechanism on the cover into the little hole on the gearbox in front of the sprocket. It's part of the linkage to work the clutch.

At least that is what it looks like to me with my limited experience with the 600.

sputnik378 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2006, 11:31:11 AM »

right but where do I find a new one?

Red01 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2006, 11:35:27 AM »

Anywhere that sells Suzuki parts. Something like that might be tough to find at the local moto-wrecking yard.

tannerismyhero · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2006, 02:08:05 PM »

your lucky it didnt do anythimg more. I was in my local suzuki shop a couple of weeks ago and the repair guy showed me a 02 bandit 12 that the chain jumped and broke a piece off the engine case. $1200 to fix that thing. He said he's seen it go straight thru and phuck up a motor. Maybe a lesson in chain tension and sprocket up keep should be required in order to title a bike.

sputnik378 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2006, 03:19:55 PM »

^^^yep that's for sure. In fact it gives me a good excuse to fully go through the bike and clean it all up a bit as well. I haven't done anything to the bike since I bought it and I was just asking for something to give. Anyway I'll get the part as soon as possible, however to know what the thing is actually called would be great so I know what to order.

I've gotta go out of town to get parts for the bike. No Suzuki dealers near me...

tannerismyhero · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2006, 04:23:24 PM »

you gotta snowballs chance in hell of a suzuki dealer havin the part in stock. if you figure out what part it is get a bikebandit or some other oem net site to ship it fer ya. hell, a lot of the time the dealer will order from parts unlimited anyway.

tannerismyhero · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2006, 04:28:36 PM »

I donno what bike year you have but I looked up an 01 600 (because 01 is the best for the 1200's....and red is the fastest) but look at part # 15 and 16

http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/oem_schematic_view~schem_dept_id~708913~section_dept_id~1~section_dept_name~OEM+%28Stock%29+Parts~dept_type_id~2~model_dept_year~2001~model_dept_mfr~Suzuki~model_dept_id~703297~model_dept_name~GSF600SK+BANDIT.asp#stay

Have fun rebuilding that....

sputnik378 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:13:34 PM »

I also need a new front sprocket cover... I think I can probably do some afro engineering on it for the moment. I've found the pushrod that I need to replace on bikebandits, but I still need the rest of it. Oh and one more question how much of a mission is it going to be to put this all back together? I have pretty much no experience taking apart bikes and putting them back together but I would like to try especially if it is feasible, maybe even if I got a friend to give me a hand.

stormi · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2006, 09:32:43 PM »

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Maybe a lesson in chain tension and sprocket up keep should be required in order to title a bike.

I'd like to see that. I think it should be part of the "motorcycle training" courses. And I'd like to see those mandatory. Having met a few people that didn't take the course, and having taken it myself. ( For instance, when someone goes for a ride on a bike and says, "damn, that back brake is the sh!ts" and doesn't want to use the front brake for fear of being pitched over... maybe you need to take the course.)

The "parts bike" I got all of Dita's parts off of had it's chain thrown not once but twice before it cracked the countershaft and the guy wrote it off.

He's since bought a new bike. I sure hope that he's taking better care of the chain and sprokets on this one.

Losing a chain can do so many nasty things! Wad up into the engine, lock up the back wheel... either way, you really don't want to be on it when it goes.

sputnik378 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2006, 10:51:04 AM »

yeah well I wrote the book for that course. I was just being lazy. Still doesn't change the fact that I need to get a new front sprocket cover. If anyone has any idea where to find one... Otherwise I'll start looking at junkyards I suppose.

I also figure the only way to fix this is to take the clutch out of the bike and put it back together after I remove the broken pressure pin and put in a replacement. I think I'll do that on monday. Sounds like a real fun time. Wish me luck (never pulled apart a motorcycle clutch before, but I aint skerd)

stormi · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2006, 03:24:05 PM »

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yeah well I wrote the book for that course. I was just being lazy. Still doesn't change the fact that I need to get a new front sprocket cover. If anyone has any idea where to find one... Otherwise I'll start looking at junkyards I suppose.

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Junkyards are tough, unless the front sprocket cover is shared with another bike. Unless the Bandits are more plentiful there than here. Plus, many a bike has been written off by the chain breaking or coming off and smashing crap in there, often taking out that cover. Or lowsided on the left. The junkers around me, I'm not sure why they don't just answer the phone with "no, I don't have it, how can I help you?"

Did you know what would happen if you were lazy enough with your maintenance that the chain would come off? People that I know that have had the same happen -didn't-. That's why I say basic maintenance should be a part of the course. Complete with the horror pictures that they like to show in the auto driving course. I hated those, but damn, they made me think.

smooth operator · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2006, 08:12:12 AM »

As far as ordering the part,its not important to know what it is called,because the person ordering it @ the dealer may not know it either.(most likely) I would go to the dealer,have him bring it up on the screen,and point out exactly what you need. Then you know the right part is ordered. Dan

stormi · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2006, 11:30:03 AM »

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I would go to the dealer,have him bring it up on the screen,and point out exactly what you need. Then you know the right part is ordered. Dan

Or identify it on the fiches at any of the places mentioned above, and take the number into the dealer ( make them pull it up still.)

The main reason I didn't post links to any other than the bikebandit one that had been posted earlier, is that I know that the site gets money by people buying from bike bandit.

I will say one thing about those online places. As a Canadian, I don't know if Suzuki USA is any better, but it's easier, faster ( by many weeks to MONTHS), and usually significantly cheaper than getting parts through a dealer.

I ordered from bike bandit, before I found cheaper routes, the parts I needed to do the cam chain for the b4.

Price here? More than $500cdn. (It was almost a year ago that I was looking into this, I don't remember the exact prices) ETA on the parts - 6 weeks, after they were made in Japan. Likely about 2½-3 months. And much time spent with the parts guy that grumbled about having to "locate the fiche".

Price from Bike Bandit after exchange to Cdn? just over $300. The parts arrived in about 10 days, despite 3 parts being cross-shipped. (Once the order shipped, it arrived -2- days later. It cleared customs in less than 2 days!)

It's not just Suzuki parts either. This week, I priced out a tank for a friend's 2004 cb600F ( Honda 599 Hornet)
Here: $1200CDN ( just under $1060USD)
Bike Bandit about $760USD
Mr Motorcycle $526USD.

Our dollar isn't that weak.

sputnik378 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2006, 07:19:19 PM »

I attribute it to one thing and one thing only. I was just lazy, I got the bike and immediately started using it as my only means of transport to and from work daily. I didn't do any preventative maintenance on it until the day that this happened. I was actually picking up an oil filter to change the oil and check over the bike when this happened. So yes I knew better and yep I definitely phucked it up. However there isn't too much I can do about it at the moment besides fix it. I know what the part is... It's a pressure pin for the clutch and it costs $7 on bikebandits. I've ordered it and now all there is to do is pull apart my entire clutch to put the thing in. Something I'm both looking forward to and dreading. I have never pulled a clutch out before so I'm a bit nervous, but I also have a detailed manual and a fair bit of know how. We'll see what happens I suppose. Wish me luck anyway I may need it.

One question I have though, is should I replace any of the springs in the clutch while I've got it apart. I don't have a macrometer to measure all the parts but I suppose I could take them somewhere and have them measured. Just wondering if it's a good idea to replace them anyway. I don't think the clutch is in any kind of disrepair so I shouldn't have to replace that, but I have no idea about the springs.