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Offline Rocketjock

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« on: January 31, 2007, 10:25:15 AM »
OK. So I'm crackin 55. But, you know what they say. On the inside I feel like 16. Fact is due to my Rock n Roll youth and a lot of other things I have some pretty good ear damage. So much so that when I came back from the initial setup ride the other day my ears hurt. The setup was Ivan's stage 1 kit with a 2Bros can on my 06 B12. Now, I love the new power. (As if it wasn't fast enough to begin with.) Now it is my new Rocket ship. The idea for the can was for looks of course but basically because the stock was just too damn quiet. When I decided on this one I queried on just how loud it was and was told it was not too bad and had a deep bass tone as compared to say, the Yosh. Well, it does that and I like it. But, realistically this can is way loader than anything I've had before. I've had two Yoshes and a series of lesser aftermarkets. So much so that I've had to use earplugs. I am thinking of making up a restriction plate to install at the midpipe end. Maybe something with three large holes in it just to bring the Dbs down 5 or 10. Or maybe stainless steel wool? If I do this I know I'm gonna be playin with the airbox holes to adjust for the back pressure. I also know the neighbours would be happier. And maybe I could ride without earplugs. Or am I just a big woos? Opinions will be duly noted.
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2007, 11:58:43 AM »
As a somewhat younger "old guy" who has done some damage to my hearing over the years, I alway wear earplugs - just a few miles without them leave my ears ringing.  The most annoying thing is the wind noise since I have a stock exhaust but anything that causes discomfort can lead to further damage.

I can't help with any suggestions on quieting the can but just consider this a gentle nudge to protect your hearing - hearing aids are a pain.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2007, 11:58:46 AM »
Having been a range master for so many years and exsposed to weapons system firing I am sort of in the same boat but not as bad as my buddy who can't hear you yell unless he is facing you. When I first heard my Yosh RS3 it seemed much loader at first but actually at idle and idling out of the neighborhood my neighbors say they don't really hear it at all. On the road and highway the My B12 loves to cruise no lower then 5500 RPM and I sometimes worry that side traffic can't hear me coming. Having the slip on installed for almost 2 years now my assessment is that Yosh managed to get this pipe just under the pain decibel level probably 96 db's. Overall I am impressed with the pipe and believe that the turned down end as Yosh advertises really dose push the db's toward the ground.

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2007, 12:39:56 PM »
No need to go into the mid-pipe and make your own noise suppressor; Two Brothers already has one. It is the P-1R Power Tip sound suppressor. It lowers the output noise by 2-3 DB (3db = 50% reduction). I think it is only about $20 and it is easy to install. Just remove the existing endcap, drop in the P-1R and reinstall the endcap. Two Brothers claims that installing the Power Tip results in no significant reduction in horsepower.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2007, 02:10:23 PM »
i got no info on the pipe noise, but i vote you wear earplugs anyway for the wind noise and save what little you got left.  i'm only 30, but i worked on the ramp at MSP airport for 5 years before transfering out and i have noticeable hearing loss. In normal situations i can hear ok, but if there's a lot of ambient noise, i'm screwed.  Do all you can to save what you have, you don't want to go through the rest of your life saying "What?" to everyone. :stickpoke:

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 02:34:05 PM »
Quote from: "CWO4GUNNER"
On the road and highway the My B12 loves to cruise no lower then 55000 RPM and I sometimes worry that side traffic can't hear me coming.


 :stickpoke: If your bike is turning 55000 RPM, I'll bet people are gonna hear you coming... that's ~3X the red-line of a '06 Yamaha R6's (lying) tach and faster than most jet engines spin!

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 02:38:31 PM »
It's the wind noise that makes me want to wear ear plugs, too... and like many of the above, I suffer hearing loss from occupational & recreational noise hazards. Got tinitus to boot.

Wish I would have taken better care of my ears in my youth!  :sad:
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 02:46:02 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 06:23:54 PM »
Look closely at the post, I now have to wear reading glasses also LOL. :stickpoke:

Quote from: "Red01"
Quote from: "CWO4GUNNER"
On the road and highway the My B12 loves to cruise no lower then 55000 RPM and I sometimes worry that side traffic can't hear me coming.


 :stickpoke: If your bike is turning 55000 RPM, I'll bet people are gonna hear you coming... that's ~3X the red-line of a '06 Yamaha R6's (lying) tach and faster than most jet engines spin!

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 08:33:18 PM »
Wow. Great (and friendly) replies, boys. A few notes. I already have the tip installed. Besides adding to a great look by showing a slightly visable turned down gold tip, it supposedly reduces the noise by 2 to 3 dbls. Not enough to count, but it looks great. Ya, the wind noise has been a problem and maybe the easiest solution is earplugs. No biggie. Interestingly, when I hit 5000rpm, the noise level dissapates completely. But, crack the throttle and the monster awakens. Lol. I'll live with it. I just hope my upcoming trips south of the border don't get Smoky too riled.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2007, 12:10:42 AM »
If you do wear ear plugs I recommend the foamy plugs which are comfortable and long enduring as long as you don't shove them in deep. The rubber one hurt me after awhile.

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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2007, 12:27:58 AM »
If you really want to be kind to your ears - both in terms of comfort and noise reduction - and you can afford it - you can get ear plugs specially molded to your ears - a couple of the people I ride have them, one of them has gone to the extra expense of having them made so they can be plugged in to an iPOD, CD Player etc.

Although I've never tried them myself, the guys reckon they're the ducks guts.....

see http://www.earmold.com.au/content/blogcategory/23/35/

apparantly these guys are the Aussie/Kiwi importers/suppliers of the product which is based in the US.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2007, 10:50:43 AM »
Quote from: "aussiebandit"
If you really want to be kind to your ears - both in terms of comfort and noise reduction - and you can afford it - you can get ear plugs specially molded to your ears - a couple of the people I ride have them, one of them has gone to the extra expense of having them made so they can be plugged in to an iPOD, CD Player etc.

Although I've never tried them myself, the guys reckon they're the ducks guts.....

see http://www.earmold.com.au/content/blogcategory/23/35/

apparantly these guys are the Aussie/Kiwi importers/suppliers of the product which is based in the US.


While they may be more comfortable (I've never tried them), with a "25" suppression rating, they won't supress as many db as most foam-style disposable ear plugs. Most of the foamies have ratings in the "30-35" range. A bigger number offers more suppression/protection.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2007, 11:25:18 AM »
There are three reasons why people usually install aftermarket exhaust:  More power, less weight, and more (or different) noise.  There are several pipes that claim to offer more power and less weight but without excessive noise including Hindle and Holeshot.  There may be others.  

I definitely would not attempt to restrict the midpipe to reduce sound levels because that could negate the high RPM performance gains of the current setup.  

If you look at dyno charts for aftermarket pipes you will see the largest gains at higher RPM ranges (where we spend little time in the "real world"on the street).  Although less restrictive exhaust is needed for big high RPM gains, comparable increases in midrange power can be achieved with a quiet pipe if jetting is right and the airbox is opened up for better flow on the intake side.  Unless you really need a "hit" at the upper end of the RPM range, you might be better off with a quieter pipe that delivers a stronger midrange (2,500 - 5,000 RPM).   I remember that Yamaha had EXUP to provide variable exhaust back pressure.  It increased backpressure at low RPM to increase midrange and it worked.  It opened up at higher RPMs resulting in the best of both worlds.

I have had great success with a HS stage 1 jet kit, airbox modification, and ignition advancer and a stock pipe.  My midrange is very strong and my bike is "sneaky fast".

I still wear earplugs to reduce fatigue from wind noise and it really helps.

My goal is to be able to go fast as quietly as possible.  This setup might not be for everybody but I love it.  

If you want more sound than stock but not as much as you have, consider the HS Touring silencer or the Hindle Street silencer.

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2007, 01:12:45 PM »
The reason I wear ear plugs is to filter out annoying air wind noise around my helmet, not because of the exhaust noise. In fact I can hear better with the foamy ear plugs because it filters out the air wash nosies and allows me to concentrate on other important sounds. I haven't researched it yet but if I am not mistaken the same electronic suppression technology exist for helmets as for fire arm range use. This technology allows you to hear better then normal but filters out damaging noises to a safe level. I am waiting for the day when they incorporate this technology with legal full stereo music technology for helmets and have the best of both worlds.

In the mean time the foamy plugs will work for the exhaust as well.