Author Topic: GSX-R1000 $12k OTD, dealer won't trade-in my 05 B12 (5K) (Read 35301 times)

RDUBandit · « **Reply #151 on:** May 03, 2007, 07:50:42 PM »

Whew! I read the whole thread, and perhaps I missed a few things, but am I the only one who finds, "A wise man wins favor, but a fool's tongue is his undoing He begins by talking nonsense and ends in mischief run mad" ironic?

ZenMan · « **Reply #152 on:** May 03, 2007, 09:05:36 PM »

Quote from: "RDUBandit"

Whew! I read the whole thread, and perhaps I missed a few things, but am I the only one who finds, "A wise man wins favor, but a fool's tongue is his undoing He begins by talking nonsense and ends in mischief run mad" ironic?

Nope.

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #153 on:** May 03, 2007, 09:45:13 PM »

ZenMan · « **Reply #154 on:** May 03, 2007, 10:17:04 PM »

Quote from: "CWO4GUNNER"

I'm flexible.
Well the money finally posted to my account from OR a valid as a cash deposit with no holds so tonight I am doing up the inventory sheet and bill of sales for him the sign and fax back. Then I will have his shipper sign off on the inventory sheet, take photographs of the driver and truck and waive goodbye on the 10th. I only hope I will be able to find such a good deal when I start shopping around for the 07 GSXR. I guess I am in the same boat you were in Zen, only I am strolling the decks not hanging from the yardarm.

You? "Flexible"? Now that's ironic!

Don't forget to make him sign the "inventory sheet" in his own blood and get a lock of his hair for a DNA sample. Give him a glass of water so you'll have his fingerprints. And make him hold up a current newspaper with the date visible when you take his picture. Oh, and attach a GPS homing device to his truck.

There's only two things hanging around here... my arm in a sling and the other is nunya bizness.

You're "strolling the decks" alright... no streetbike! I can relate, it took too long for my B1250 to come in, but now that I have a few miles on it, I'm glad I ordered it last winter. It turned out to be the best choice despite the doom-sayers that tried to bad-mouth it... now all the reviews have nothing but high praise for the B1250, it's selling like sno-cones in August, and the trash-talking critics are eating their words... the flexible ones, that is.

But most importantly, it's absolutely everything I wanted in a road bike and more... I'm hugely satisfied. Just a couple minor complaints like the mirrors and headlight adjustment, otherwise the power, handling, ergonomics and styling are incredible... and all for under $8K!

Hey, if you end up buying that squid-rocket, how about I come down there on my Bandit and we can compare bikes... you got any good curves or canyon roads to carve up? Or how about a local road-race course... a track day would be fun!

Don't worry, I'll be nice and comfy on my way down... I wouldn't wish a long trip like that on a Gixxer on my worst enemy...

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #155 on:** May 03, 2007, 10:57:30 PM »

RDUBandit · « **Reply #156 on:** May 03, 2007, 11:11:55 PM »

GSXR1000? Bah! That's yesterday's bike. What you really want is the new MV Agusta F4 1000R 312 homologation special. Top speed: 194mph; horsepower: 183 (@12,400rpm). Now THAT would make a REALLY nice sport-tourer.

The MV is a little more $$$ than the Gixxer though ($25,000), but hell, it IS Italian.

Oh, and be careful not to spin up the rear wheel whilst leaving the KOA.

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #157 on:** May 03, 2007, 11:32:37 PM »

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #158 on:** May 04, 2007, 05:14:21 AM »

RDUBandit · « **Reply #159 on:** May 04, 2007, 09:19:21 AM »

Quote from: "CWO4GUNNER"

Yup you got to give the Japanese credit, they know how to engineer a hell of a bike at half the price. Besides I never knew an Italian bike that didn't have an oil leak, electrical problems, or exaggerated performance specs. But they do blow the competition away on high price.

I've put 22,000 miles on my S4R in 26 months. All I've needed to do is change the oil/filer and add gas...runs like a champ.

BTW, Ferracci is racing that F4 in AMA this year.

ZenMan · « **Reply #160 on:** May 04, 2007, 12:38:57 PM »

Quote from: "CWO4GUNNER"

Well looked at allot more specs today on the GSXR 1000, the Busa and yes the Bandit 1250.

So I have to wait and think this one out.

Now that's the practical, shrewd, common sense CWO4GUNNER we all know and love! Welcome back, bud!

I have absolutely zero doubt that an exhaust mod and a re-map will release the beast inside the B1250. It already runs like a raped ape...

I had my muffler and mid-pipe off the other day. There is a catalytic converter built into the header right behind the collector. Running it without the muffler was loud, but the CAT obviously restricts the exhaust, or it would've been ear-bursting.

The muffler and mid-pipe weigh over 25 lbs... and installed it makes the exhaust so quiet you can barely hear it. You know it's restricted like crazy. Imagine what a lightweight aftermarket can would do... save over 15 lbs. and give 15 HP's all at once. Remove the CAT, that's another 5 HP... and a few more pounds.

As for the re-map... give it another 15 HP's at the least. So what are we up to now? 35 HP's with exhaust mods and remap. That's on the conservative side.

The Holeshot dynomometer revealed 105 HP and 85 ft-lbs. torque on the new '07 B1250, and I believe that run was made right after initial break-in, probably less than 1K on the clock. Add the 35 HP's from the mods and there's your magic 140 horsepower number, and for under $1K. Who knows what the torque would be... it's already eyeball-flattening in stock trim.

Now subtract the 20 lbs. or so weight savings from the 496 lbs. dry weight and your down to around 476 pounds.

But you don't have to take my word for it... click here: http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=8717

Personally, I'm happy with it just the way it is for now... you really do have to ride it yourself to fully grasp the monster torque this thing has... all the specs will go right out the window the first time you twist the throttle, believe me. Practically pulls your arms out of the sockets.

But rest assured as soon as the 1 year warranty is up that CAT is gonna disappear, along with the big-ass muffler. And you know I'll have to mess with the CPU mapping....

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #161 on:** May 04, 2007, 01:24:46 PM »

PaulVS · « **Reply #162 on:** May 04, 2007, 01:44:39 PM »

Quote from: ZenMan

Quote from: "CWO4GUNNER"

When you test ride the gixxer, test ride a B1250 too. What can it hurt? At least you'll know from first-hand experience.

While I agree that the CWO's past-bashing of the B1250 seems ridiculous, and that the Gixxer is a much more narrow-usage kind of motorcycle... I will say say that if he is intent on trading in his bike... going from an '05 B1200 to an '07 B1250 would be kinda pointless.

CWO4GUNNER · « **Reply #163 on:** May 04, 2007, 01:52:06 PM »

PaulVS · « **Reply #164 on:** May 04, 2007, 01:55:31 PM »

I actually meant 'trading-in' in the general/vague sense of the term... as in 'getting rid of'.