Honda's concept CB1100R a Bandit Eater?

[smooth operator]

China, The SV is alot tighter seating position, the seat is hard,alot more weight foward than the Bandit. You can feel the wt. loss right away compaired to the Bandit. It defitatly slips through the turns easier. Just think turn and a slight push/pull and your coming out already. I can make the bandit dice through the turns pretty good, but it takes more body steering and more effort. After ridding the SV for awhile then get on the Bandit and it feels like a huge dirt bike. And it feels like it doesn't want to turn compaired to the SV. The Bandit handels better at parking lot speeds,manuvering around things. The weight being more centered I can put the stand down on the Bandit and spin it around 360. When my brother rides with me (he has a zrx1200) he said I go through the turn about 10 mph faster on the SV and has a harder time keeping up. Everyone likes the torque,but the Bandit is no slouch in the tourque department either. Mine is a 03,I bought it for$5500.w/1150 miles. A no intrest $ loan from a local dealer(1 yr). I have the last K as soon as I get paid from a cash job I did.    Dan

[China Greg]

Smooth-
Great info on the SV! I think you confirmed my thoughts about it vs. El Bandito- SV a bit more Sport-oriented.. not as comfortable (read: ROOMY.. often a problem for a 6'1" 225 lb guy) those pegs always seemed too high, bars too low.. and a little more ..limited.
But FASTER in terms of handling, etc.

I'll bet it's great to give it a fat handlfull of throttle and feel that chug-Chug-CHUG.. eh?

[smooth operator]

Smooth-
Great info on the SV! I think you confirmed my thoughts about it vs. El Bandito- SV a bit more Sport-oriented.. not as comfortable (read: ROOMY.. often a problem for a 6'1" 225 lb guy) those pegs always seemed too high, bars too low.. and a little more ..limited.
But FASTER in terms of handling, etc.

I'll bet it's great to give it a fat handlfull of throttle and feel that chug-Chug-CHUG.. eh?

I'm 5'11" and 190 and have a bad rt. knee. It seems uncomfortable at first,but once under way I can go for a 2-3 hr ride and the only thing that makes me want to come home is my wife will get angry if I spend all my time doing what I want to do instead of whatever. Once in awhile I'll get a kink in my hip(51 yrs old),but just gotta stand on the pegs for a few seconds.
  After riding the inline 4, it sounds funny on the Ltwin,seems like your not going that fast,but one look at the speedo and ,holly crap,didn't know I was going that fast. It has instand pull when up shifting,and a smooth powerband. As far as 2 up riding,forget it!

[China Greg]

Vibration problems thru bars?

[smooth operator]

Vibration problems thru bars?
 

No buzz like the Bandit, but you have to keep up on the nuts and bolts. I use LocTite on most stuff. Or if I know its a problem(on the SV board,a few riders lost their shifter. Nut vibrated off,then shifter came off while driving!) I saftey wire it. I don't really run in the higher rpm much on the street where most of the vibrating  occurs. You don't have to with torque at lower rpm.   Dan

[RDUBandit]

IMO, Honda's line is a response to Ducati's Sport Classic line, but I'm biased. 

CB1100R?  Forget that (but it is a beaut), check out the exhaust on the Evo6!!  Schwing!!  Tentpole!!!   

[Red01]

I wonder if the Evo6 is a reaction to the V-Max concept that's supposed to be hitting production?

I sure like the Evo6 better.  IMHO, it has one of the best looking new generation of "anything but round" headlights that manufacturers have been putting on the front of naked bikes lately.  Most of them make me 

[RDUBandit]

I wonder if the Evo6 is a reaction to the V-Max concept that's supposed to be hitting production?

I sure like the Evo6 better.  IMHO, it has one of the best looking new generation of "anything but round" headlights that manufacturers have been putting on the front of naked bikes lately.  Most of them make me 

Yup, the Evo6 is sweet.  I always thought the V-Max was fugly.

I like some non-round headlights, and dislike others.  Tuono: nope.  Brutale:  yup.

My girlfriend just crashed her FZ6 (car turned left in front of her...both legs broken), and she is now looking over the Kawasaki Versys.  The Versys has a funky headlight, but  I sorta dig it.  She says the Bandit 12/12.5 is too heavy.  I wish they had a 650 Bandit here in the US.

[China Greg]

your girlfriend JUST crashed.. broke BOTH her legs... and is ALREADY looking at new bikes??
Wow. MARRY her.

Hope she gets better soon!

[Red01]

What Greg just said... on both accounts!

If you/her are wishing for a 650 Bandit, you can get pretty close with this:



And if the fairing on this is to your liking, but the Bandit's is, perhaps a trade could be worked out with a B1250 owner who likes the fully faired look of the GSX-F but had to have more motor.

[RDUBandit]

HA!  Yup, she's a keeper. 

She wants something she can mount hard cases on and is otherwise a standard.  The 650F looks too much like the GS500.

In any case, she has several months to think about it.

Well, I take that back...that 650 doesn't look like the GS500.  In fact, it looks pretty good in black.    However, it's dry weight is 475 lbs.? 

[Red01]

Only 475 lbs.? That's pretty good! According to the UK Suzuki site the naked 650 Bandit weighs 474 lbs. and the S model with ABS wieghs in at 489.4 lbs.  Not as light as the Versys' 399 lbs., but then it is carrying around two more cylinders and all the associated mass that comes with that..  I'm guessing more power over a broader rpm range.  If low weight is what you're after, the SV650 only weighs 370.4 lbs...

[smooth operator]

  Hope your woman heals quickly, that Verseys should be a good bike. A easy handleing package.

[China Greg]

I could go for that full-fairing on my B12... (although I've really gotten fond of the 1stGen half-fairing.. a lot slimmer/sleeker than the subsequent "Barn Door" fairings on 2nd Gen and 1250).

Not a bad look; all the other aftermarket fairing lowers I've seen for the B12 have been,.. well.. aftermarket.

[RDUBandit]

My B12 weighed 470lbs. when new.  What makes this 650 so heavy?  Oh...I bet it's the plumbing!! 

Thanks for the well-wishes re my girl.  Last night was her first night out of the hospital.  She has a LOT of pain, and the healing will take a while.  Tomorrow, she's coming to my house, so that'll make the logistics easier.