stopped to render aid

[smooth operator]

My brother talked me into a Monday golf league at a nearby course (used to be a potato farm) During my hacking I heard a 4cyl. singging through the gears. After the 9th,we headed to the barn to tally up over a beer(or2) and there was a GSX-R parked out front. I seen a young man and his girl each having a beer,(only 1 helmet?) and asked him if it was a 750. Said it was a 06 1000 and couldn't wait to show me. I've seen GSX-Rs befor,but I took a look anyhow. He started it up,I heard bikes run befor but just humored him and listened for a few seconds.
  He was telling me how fast he was going by.(that doesn't impress me,just tells me he has no common sence)I just said,"ya, I heard you." And told him of my 2 bikes.
  I went and finish my beer and see if I won a skin on my only par and he came over with his name and ph# . Said he was always looking for someone to ride with. So I gave him mine as well, and reconized his last name through the wrestling community family.(years of coaching)
   Finished my beer and left for home, and coming around a bend I see the bike on the side of the road.Put the 4ways on,and asked them if they were alright.He said he got in some gravel(well of course you did! Its a tar&chip rd.in the spring time in Erie!Theres still holes and loose crap all over the place)but I didn't lecture him just checked to see how they were. Her shoulders,knee and hand hurt,she was wearing the helmet.He had a gash over his rt.eye,and was bleeding pretty good. I told him I'd give them a ride and get my trailer,but he was hell bent on leaving the scene. The young woman did'nt want a ride either,and away they went.I caught up to them at the end of the road,they were jumping off the bike,the back rotor was red hot and in flames. He was trying to blow it out(not working) so I grabbed a bag of cement from the back of the van and poured it on the fire,picked up the bike and pulled it off the rd. I forgot my phone @ home, and they wanted no part of 911. Said he drove tractor trailer and couldn't afford any trouble.(said they only had 2 beers)I know the pepole at the house we were by but he  didn't want to leave the bike.(retired state police and his wife is a probation officer.) He wanted no part of that, wanted to take his bike down the road and I would take his girl in the van. We met 1/4 mile down the road, and I was tiring of the nonsence,told them to call 911(sometimes you maybe hurt more than you think)the girl was in tears by now. But they had 2 vehicles on the way,1 for the bike and 1 to take them to the hospital. So I bid them fairwell.
  Maybe I should have put this in the squid section,ay?   Dan

[Sven]

...the back rotor was red hot and in flames. He was trying to blow it out(not working) so I grabbed a bag of cement from the back of the van and poured it on the fire...

Dan, interesting story.  So mnay things go wrong when people aren't right.

What made the rotor get so hot in such a shirt distance?

I don't think tossing concrete on it would have ever come to my mind...good improvisation!

[rmtcook]

Reminds me of a story a long time ago when I was driving with a friend of mine down a country road on a pitch black night and thought I heard something off the side of the road. I made a u-turn and saw a bike and young guy and girl at the bottom of a steep gully. They were both in shorts and tee shirts and were a mess. The guy had a flap of skin and muscle about a foot long dangling from the back of his leg but kept telling me he was allright. She was all scraped up and it looked like her arm was broken. We put them in the car, administered some first aid, and managed to push the bike back up to the road. My friend rode behind us as I raced at about 90mph to the hospital. We got them to the emergency room and waited for their parents to arrive before leaving and were told they would both recover. One of those spooky times in your life where you think, what made me go down that road at that time? Weird.

[Red01]

What made the rotor get so hot in such a shirt distance?

My guess is it got warped in the crash.

[JReviere]

Smooth:   While reading your post, I felt more than thought: "I hope they are OK and learned something."  Then as I finished reading, the over arching impression came: "I'll bet they didn't learn ANYTHING at all."  

Some folks, it seems, are not only stupid but proud of it.  

Maybe next time, and there will be a next time most probably, he'll remove himself from the human gene pool before he breeds more people with his mentality.  

The problem with such stupid people is, they endanger others, not just themselves, and they give every rider a BAD IMAGE in the minds of Oscar and Minnie Grope so in driving their BelchFire 8, they really don't care if they wipe out a rider or three.

JR

[smooth operator]

Well JR,youcould be right. But I like to be a bit more optimistic and hope he (they) did learn from their mistakes.
  Any young kid with the $ or even enough credit to sign his name can by aGSXR1000,CBR1000,ZX10,and they don't nesicarily have to have experience or common sence to drive off with one. I know other places in the world have  CC restrictions for novice riders,maybe thats not such a bad idea. If he calls to go riding (after he fixes the bike) the 1st instinct is to say" Hell No!" But maybe he can be schooled and educated to where he doesn't make us all look bad. I have a kid from the neighborhood that wants to ride with me in the worst way. He's been driving a EX500,but just purchased a Daytona 675. The kid is 21or22 and maybe 110LBS soak&wet! I told him,"THERE ARE RULES." #1 don't try to impress me with your ability.#2 were not on a race track,if you want to go to the track that would be fine. I think a little schooling might help him.
  But like you say, some are like talking to a wall.   Dan

[JReviere]

Dan,
You are dead center on target wanting to be a proper example and good teacher. I'd do the same thing, really. I have just been around so long, seen so much, heard so much (I practiced Clinical Psychology for a career) and seen the results of stupidy so often, I have a rather negative impression of a lot of folk. After the way you described that fellow, I really got a negative impression of his intellect... From how you described him, I got the impression he was a case of "all balls and no brains."  I hope I'm wrong.  

You were right to lay on rules for the other young fellow too. I recently faced just that too. I sent .jpgs of my Bandit to my older daughter.

Her 18 year old son sent me a message: "Grandpa, I want you to teach me to ride your bike."  I messaged back. "Bandit is too hot for a starter bike. I'll tell you what: "you sign up and take the beginning rider training course at the local Junior College, and I'll buy a suitable starter bike you can use to commute to college in the fall and pay me for the bike from your own funds, deal?"  The message came back: "Deal"  

So I acquired an 86 Honda CB700S NightHawk S with 20K on it in superb condition, but I'm keeping it until he can show me his DL with the endorsement and his completion of the MSF school.

Then I have a helmet, gloves, and armored jacket he can use...  I sent him pictures of the NightHawk... it's really a beauty, so I think I'll be instrumental in starting him off the best possible way.
JR

[smooth operator]

Thats awsome JR,thats the way to do it. My grandson is still shy of 3yrs.old, I've given him  rides down the driveway and around the yard in front of me by the tank. Now I have to start getting tough with him. He wants to climb on it "Come on Grandpa!" and I don't want him getting burnt or having the bike fall on him.  Dan

[JReviere]

Aye, Dan.  I've a 20 year old grand son who has never shown an interest in a bike, so I've never mentioned it to him. This one has ridden briefly behind me on several short occasions, however. His sister and little brother have as well. They all know, NO HELMET, NO RIDE.

None of the other grandkids has been interested. I don't push my interests on any of them. I treat them each as the UNIQUE person they are and let them develop their interests as they will.

We'll see how this one works out.  He has academic scholarship to the University of Houston, which is about 25 miles from his parent's home, so I figure he'll use the Black Hawk to commute to school. Typically of urban univesrsities, parking a bike is an awful lot easier than finding a place to park a car.  It was many years ago when I first started Grad School there.

JR

[Dave 02 1200]

The best way I know of to mellow out a too-fast street rider is to take them to the race track.  It will help put ego in perspective and, after going really fast, the street experience will no longer have the same thrill but will be enjoyed in a different (safer) way.  Just my 2 cents from my own experience.

[Dave 02 1200]

The best way I know of to mellow out a too-fast street rider is to take them to the race track.  It will help put ego in perspective and, after going really fast, the street experience will no longer have the same thrill but will be enjoyed in a different (safer) way.  Just my 2 cents from my own experience.

[ZenMan]

The best way I know of to mellow out a too-fast street rider is to take them to the race track.  It will help put ego in perspective and, after going really fast, the street experience will no longer have the same thrill but will be enjoyed in a different (safer) way.  Just my 2 cents from my own experience.

Absolutely! That's what straightened me out.  

I was going really fast on the highways... mostly out on the country roads, fortunately I still had enough sense to ride defensively in traffic. But I was the fastest guy in the group of guys I rode/hung out with. I had quite a big head, and my buds were telling me I should go race, I'd blow 'em all away. etc... so I put together a bike, bought leathers, took the required one-day racing school, entered the qualifiers, and...

Proceeded to get my punk-ass handed to me by most of the riders out there. It was a very humbling experience, I don't mind telling you... it probably saved my life. It certainly gave me a huge appreciation for what truly fast really is, and also gave me an outlet for all my adrenaline-jonesing hormones on the weekends.

But the best thing was the riders I met (and eventually became friends with) at the track that showed me patience, taught me skills, sportmanship, and respect. It's a gentleman's sport, and there's a sense of brother-sisterhood for all of those who hang their asses on the line out there on the track... ya gotta watch out for each other.

This kid could learn a lot at the racetrack. And with his typical punk ego, it wouldn't be that hard to get him out there either...  

[Vidrazor]

I say the bike was stolen.

[smooth operator]

The best way I know of to mellow out a too-fast street rider is to take them to the race track.  It will help put ego in perspective and, after going really fast, the street experience will no longer have the same thrill but will be enjoyed in a different (safer) way.  Just my 2 cents from my own experience.

  I agree, thats what my plan is for the neighbor kid thats picking up the Daytona 675. I'll take him through Fasttrax,I've learnrd something each time I've gone. After you start going often, you work on certain turns or areas of turns, turn in time,bike set-up. There is always something to learn each time you go. I want to take the SV there anyway. I just have to wait for some $ to start coming in 1st. I also have a brother that wants to go too. He has a 03 Bandit. Took my other brother last yr with his ZRX1200,he'd go again. I'll try to get us all involved at the same time and get a discount.   Dan