SV650 ANYONE?

[flipbandit]

any reviews or good read on the sv650?
i'm seriously thinking of getting one.
my bandit is going to a friend of mine.
any oil starvation issues on sv650s? 90degree twin.

the gsxr600, gave it some thinkin, and more power more money. im just a lowly  rider. i dont think i need all that extras on a bike. i dont think i'll be able to use all that stuff they put on bikes nowadays.

kawi zzr600 is also a candidate but went to a couple dealers said they sold out.

and the ninja 650 is just plain weird to me.

fz6 maybe.

but i just love the vtwin grunts on ducatis people say they're comparable on the sv650.

what u think?

[PitterB4]

We just did this a few weeks ago (click here).

I know people with SVs and follow the message boards at SVRider.com.  They will blow from oil starvation if you wheelie them.  AFAIK, no wheelies, no problems.

[flipbandit]

man, i've read so much on the sv650 now.
there's so many people saying good stuff bout the bike, even magazine reviews are great. something like, "it's the poor man's ducati." but why compare it with a euro bike that's way over price? is it because that that over priced bike is a standard of performance on a bike?
 anyways, i think they were talkin bout the "748 dark", the article says "its a sv650 in a boss hugo suit."

if only suzuki still makes b6s i'd probably get another one. but i wanna get the feel of the sv's v-twin. maybe on tuesday i'll test ride one at baker motorsports.

alot of people say this bike is such a bargain for the reviews from it's performance.

but are there anymore bad things you could say on this bike? i'd like to know before i make up my mind.

also read the size issue, being cramped. this bike is just perfect to me being 125pounds 5.3" i sat on one at the dealership and man it was like they have made the bike just for me.


i just read the fuel starvation issue. but i'm not big on wheelies. i don't even do it on my b6, just because i care for the bike too much i don't really want that hard slamming on the front shocks.


if that's the only issue people can say on this bargain of a bike i'm almost set on getting one.

[Farre]

i just read the fuel starvation issue.

it's Oil starvation, much much worse...

[flipbandit]

oil starvation, yeah,

but i thought the starvation is only caused by excessive wheelies being the v-twin is sitting at a 90 degree set-up. so when u wheelie on this bike, it gets the v-twin out of it's 90 degree set. that's the only reason i could come up why it would starve on oil. unless your leaking oil or burning oil excessively that your losing oil.

not on a regular riding position.

[Vidrazor]

Actually, the Hyosung 650 is beginning to look interesting to me. I don't know what they cost here in the States, but I like among other things that it has an inverted fork (although there's debate on pros and cons of this design), analog dials and is carburated. The frame design is reminiscent of early 2000s SV650s, which were far better-looking bikes than the new SVs, IMHO. The only drawback for me is that it's not available in red.

[flipbandit]

aren't the parts a lil bit hard to find on these hyosung bikes?
the svs are just everywhere i would think looking for used parts wqould be easier.
i've thought of getting a hyosung but can't find em anywhere in wa. never seen one in person.

just wonderin' if they would have the same qualities as kia cars and hyundai cars. hehe although hyundai is getting a lil better ratings now

Hyosung is one of the largest and most respected companies in South Korea, and was founded in 1952. Hyosung Motors & Machinery Inc. was established in 1978 as a motorcycle manufacturer. In 1979 a technical relationship was established with Suzuki Motor Corp of Japan for producing Suzuki models for some Asian markets. Hyosung established its own R&D center in 1986 to develop models under the Hyosung brand for export to global markets under the banner "Made by Hyosung, Ridden by The World". 12% of staff are engaged in R&D to keep pace with aggressive development of new models suitable for export markets. Hyosung produce some models that carry a Japanese brand name that are exported worldwide, and components produced by Hyosung can be found on several other brands of motorcycles.

http://www.ridehyosung.com/motorcycles.htm

[Red01]

I'm guessing the oil starvation is due to the design of the oil system. The motor is going to still be a 90* twin, no matter what attitude you put the bike in. But when you wheelie it, the pickup could get dry as the oil in the sump tilts away. A quick little power wheelie would probably never hurt anything, it would be prolonged carrying of the front wheel that would be a bad thing.

[2005B12S]

man, i've read so much on the sv650 now.
there's so many people saying good stuff bout the bike, even magazine reviews are great. something like, "it's the poor man's ducati." but why compare it with a euro bike that's way over price? is it because that that over priced bike is a standard of performance on a bike?
 anyways, i think they were talkin bout the "748 dark", the article says "its a sv650 in a boss hugo suit."

if only suzuki still makes b6s i'd probably get another one. but i wanna get the feel of the sv's v-twin. maybe on tuesday i'll test ride one at baker motorsports.

alot of people say this bike is such a bargain for the reviews from it's performance.

but are there anymore bad things you could say on this bike? i'd like to know before i make up my mind.

also read the size issue, being cramped. this bike is just perfect to me being 125pounds 5.3" i sat on one at the dealership and man it was like they have made the bike just for me.


i just read the fuel starvation issue. but i'm not big on wheelies. i don't even do it on my b6, just because i care for the bike too much i don't really want that hard slamming on the front shocks.


if that's the only issue people can say on this bargain of a bike i'm almost set on getting one.

The sport v-twins of today make very nice street machines. While I have not ridden a SV650, I have owned a TL1000 - the forerunner to the SV. The B12 and TL1000 compare as nicely as the B6 and SV650.

The v-twin SV is gonna have a much smoother powerband, very useful low end torque, and be very user friendly on the street. Being liquid cooled, its engine is in a higher state of tune than the Bandit, and will lack the buzziness of the air cooled Bandit motor.

Modifications are not as easy on the twins as the air cooled Bandits, but a simple gearing change and pipes is probably the most needed on the SV.
I really liked my TL, it had more low end torque than my B12 and was a blast to ride. I sold it because I wanted a large displacement, early GSXR style motor that could be highly modified into a rip snorting street machine 1988 style. On that the B12 delivers.

I think the B6 is a good, inexpensive machine, but if I was looking for a middleweight "right out of the box" street bike, the SV650 would be my choice.

Get some seat time on one, you will probably find it a breath of fresh air.

BTW, the oil starvation issue goes back to the 90 degree V-twin TL, it is caused by oil starvation from prolonged wheelies- the kind you ride for several blocks - and will not affect a normally ridden bike.

Also don't pass judgement on the Ducati's until you have ridden one. The 749 is a purpose built bike with world class suspension. Add the fact that they are very uncommon compared to the competition and you have the reason people are willing to pay more for a 749 than a GSXR 750.

Either way, good luck on your search, Ed

[Vidrazor]

>>i've thought of getting a hyosung but can't find em anywhere in wa.<<If>>aren't the parts a lil bit hard to find on these hyosung bikes?<<

I wouldn't profess to know. Perhaps they are, but considering they appear to have a pretty wide national distribution network in place, this may not be the case, dunno.

>>the svs are just everywhere i would think looking for used parts wqould be easier. <<

No doubt. I probably wouldn't consider the Hyosung if the new Japanese bikes had analog dials and carburation. I know there's been progress in fuel injection on bikes, but I still hear of nasty tales. About the only recent bike like that is the Honda 599, but it's overpriced, and I hear it's a slug. I also happen to like the look of the Hyosungs. I'm going to call some dealers in my area to see what the story is with checking and pricing one out.

Update: I was quoted (on the phone, not sure what that translates to in real life) $5100 the GT650 naked bike, which if so makes for one hell of a deal.

[flipbandit]

the sv650 naked is 5900$ and the s model is 6400$
at a close range in price as the hyosung, im thjinkin i'd rather go for the more tested and riden bike, the sv650.


i have nothing against the ducatis and other sportbikes i think they are amazing machines.
i think im just practical. im not a track racer, i don't need all the things companies put in bikes nowadays. sure 100+ horses, amazing brakes, incredible handling, i think that was too much for just touring and commuting. and the prices man, they're goin up too.

and the oil sump, that's part of what i meant, see on the inline fours the oil just go to on big head of the motor on the twins theres 2 and most of the oil would sump into just that one back cylinder , hmmm, would that be what the people of motoguzzi were thinkin when they make motorcycles???? hehe

[2005B12S]

the sv650 naked is 5900$ and the s model is 6400$
at a close range in price as the hyosung, im thjinkin i'd rather go for the more tested and riden bike, the sv650.

Do not know anything about the hyosung or whatever the f@ck its called

I'd spend my money on what is a known quanity and resellable- the SV.

[Red01]

flipbandit:
hmmm, would that be what the people of motoguzzi were thinkin when they make motorcycles???? hehe

Who knows what they were thinking... they took an engine out of a piece of aircraft ground support equipment and put it in a bike.  

[Vidrazor]

Not knowing much at all on the Hyosung, it's hard to say how well they'll fare. A quick peruse through korider.com shows up some problems with the engine, although it appears to not afffect all bikes, so who knows.

But sure, an SV is a known source. I could always look around for an early 2000 model, although they had their problems too.

[2005B12S]

But sure, an SV is a known source. I could always look around for an early 2000 model, although they had their problems too.

My TLS was a 2001 model, absolutely no problems. Yosh RS3 race cans,  an FI remap, and +1 rear gearing was all I ever did. Ran like a scalded cat - she would have sucked the sidecovers off your average B12.

I put around 6000 very hard miles on her and the only thing that wore out was tires-quite frequently