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Offline KX5000

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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2005, 11:23:04 PM »
My 97 b12 had 1 tooth smaller on the front and 3 teeth up on the rear when I got it. It was scary to hit the gas in first gear, and I weigh 275 lbs.  I replaced chain and sprockets since and I didn't realoze the gear change was already made so I bought one tooth bigger than stock on the front and stock on the rear. This really tamed her alot, and now the bike is way better on the highway, but still stands up in first when I whack it.  GOD I love this bike!!! :banana:   :banana:  :banana:  :beers:  :motorsmile:
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2005, 04:24:20 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2005, 08:34:27 PM »
In first, it's no prob for me, just whack the throttle at about 3-3.5k and up it comes. In second the only way I have found is stand up wheelie (which I am way more comfortable with) I just run it up to about 4500 stand up, push down on the bars with a quick motion and whack it. It comes up nice and smooth, doesn't surprise you.

On a sidenote, a bandit is a heavy bike and finding the balance point is kind of scary. It comes up smooth but once you get to it, it's a fine line between balance and looping.  Be careful :motorsmile:

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2005, 09:25:55 PM »
If you have troubles, it might be due to weight position, in that case, a passenger may help.



Or maybe your front end is just too heavy.



How do you do a stoppie? Easy, just lift up on the grap rail.



And always keep an eye out for possible traffic problems ahead.

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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2005, 01:50:17 AM »
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In first, it's no prob for me, just whack the throttle at about 3-3.5k and up it comes. In second the only way I have found is stand up wheelie (which I am way more comfortable with) I just run it up to about 4500 stand up, push down on the bars with a quick motion and whack it. It comes up nice and smooth, doesn't surprise you.

On a sidenote, a bandit is a heavy bike and finding the balance point is kind of scary. It comes up smooth but once you get to it, it's a fine line between balance and looping.  Be careful :motorsmile:


Very accurate !!!  NCBANDIT hit the nail on the head with his description...  
Nicely explained !!  It's not just power and gas !  :beers:

Clear your line and keep your tail off the tarmac !  :thanks:

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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2005, 02:18:53 AM »
The one time I tried to do a wheelie, I didn’t have a great experience.  One morning on the way to work I had a few minutes to spare and since I drive through a big parking lot without any cars in it I thought I’d give it a try.  There’s a “how-to” somewhere on the web that I had just gotten done reading and thought it sounded easy.  Well… it was a little too easy.  I took it to 3 or 4 grand then popped the throttle like I guess you’re supposed to.  The bike came up so fast I wasn’t exactly ready for it.  I knew the front wheel would come up but I didn’t think it would come up that fast… kind of caught me by surprise.  After I got the wheel up I guess I wasn’t thinking that quickly b/c I let off the throttle all the way and the front wheel came all the way down… a little to fast.  I didn’t have a good enough grip with my hands so when I came down my body shot forward and the only thing that kept me on the bike were my thumbs.  Basically my grip let go and my thumbs got caught. :duh:   Kind of hard to picture but it felt like I dislocated my thumbs… I didn’t, but it hurt bad enough for me not to try again anytime soon.  At least I didn’t drop the bike.  After that experience I haven’t really felt the need to try again.  I’m sure I will but I’ll be a little more careful next time.
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2005, 02:53:15 AM »
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In first, it's no prob for me, just whack the throttle at about 3-3.5k and up it comes. In second the only way I have found is stand up wheelie (which I am way more comfortable with) I just run it up to about 4500 stand up, push down on the bars with a quick motion and whack it. It comes up nice and smooth, doesn't surprise you.

On a sidenote, a bandit is a heavy bike and finding the balance point is kind of scary. It comes up smooth but once you get to it, it's a fine line between balance and looping.  Be careful :motorsmile:


Very accurate !!!  NCBANDIT hit the nail on the head with his description...  
Nicely explained !!  It's not just power and gas !  :beers:

Clear your line and keep your tail off the tarmac !  :thanks:



It is possible to get it up in third using the second gear routine with a little added, but it's hard to do and carrying way too much speed.

Disclaimer: this should never be done on public highways as I would never do such a thing. The tests from which I gathered my data were conducted on an abandoned airfield. I am full of shit, just be careful guys!

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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2005, 04:16:36 AM »
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It is possible to get it up in third using the second gear routine with a little added, but it's hard to do and carrying way too much speed.


My nemesis is shifting on one wheel 1st --> 2nd.  I used to do it on my YZ250 MX'er from 2nd --> 5th, and had it down, but that's a different ballgame...

Too many mistakes have been made trying it on my nekkid B12.  Missed gear pounds my head off the bars or nads off the tank.  And the shift puts me right in the meat of 2nd, which is a real touchy place to be with one wheel aloft at the balance point.  I've had a couple rear brake stabs that did the same thng to my head and nads....

I usually keep it to 1st gear powerups, and just try to stay smooth and take it from 3/4K to around 8K on the tach.  Which is a guesstimate, since my eyes are on the horizon...  Then set her down smooth and easy - keep  my gal happy...



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my data were conducted on an abandoned airfield.
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2005, 08:41:22 AM »
Quote from: "NCBANDIT"
Disclaimer: this should never be done on public highways as I would never do such a thing. The tests from which I gathered my data were conducted on an abandoned airfield. I am full of shit, just be careful guys!


Uh huh.  That's where we all do our wheelies.  The local abandoned airfield.  Uh huh. :motorsmile:

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2005, 10:34:25 AM »
I used to do nice wheelies on my old Kaw enduros back as a teenager (weighing 165 lbs)

Strangely enough... the 'best' wheelie I ever did on the Bandit was the first day I owned it.

My wife had driven me to the dealer to pick it up, and she was following me back home.  I turned right at a stop light and gunned it a bit.  The front lifted beautifully (about a foot off the ground?) for about 30 yards.  Totally unintentional.

When we got home the wife said "Wow... that was a nice wheelie you did back there!"

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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2005, 10:35:10 AM »
I think an airplane made an emergency landing on the highway once, so then it was an airstrip.  Since no planes have done it since, it MUST be an abandoned airstrip, right?  I can't help it that cars are using it too!

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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2005, 10:59:40 AM »
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Quote from: "NCBANDIT"
Disclaimer: this should never be done on public highways as I would never do such a thing. The tests from which I gathered my data were conducted on an abandoned airfield. I am full of shit, just be careful guys!


Uh huh.  That's where we all do our wheelies.  The local abandoned airfield.  Uh huh. :motorsmile:

Look a little closer at the original post....  I almost missed it myself.  :clap:
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2005, 03:58:42 PM »
i'm gonna have to try this! i have got the front end light, but would like to get more air under there, not a full on reach for the sky, more of a cary the front end! maybe not such a had wack on the right grip. m old xl500 did this perfect! wack her hard off idle and shift your weight forward a bit and ride it out till you have to grab 2nd gear and do it all over again!
i'm to young to go that slow!

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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2005, 04:27:34 PM »
I have only wheelied once on a motorbike, and that was accidental during a push start.

I admit that I am scared to do one and risk the possibility of damaging a rather expensive piece of equipment.  Some risks I take, some I don't.  I managed a few wheelies on my stingray bicycle too many moons ago to mention.

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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2005, 08:55:29 AM »
A good power wheelie never hurts. I reassembled my bandit last fri. night after folding the front wheel to the header 2 months ago. Saturday I fired her up, and as soon as the tires were warm I had the front in the air. Gotta make sure the throttle response is still up to par after sitting for awhile :grin: