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Title: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Snubnose on March 30, 2008, 04:57:19 PM
I was in the local dealership yesterday, and they had an 08 1250 with suzuki hard side bags and rack on display.

I was looking at the connect points and such of that OEM set-up and started to thinking that that same set up should fit the 2nd generation bike also (provided the frame is the same or similar). The lower points connect to the first nut of the bracket that holds on the passenget pegs and the higher points connect to the top of the rear passenger handle or TC rack.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Red01 on March 31, 2008, 03:34:17 PM
FWIW - The Givi site lists different p/n's for the 2G & 3/4G bikes.

Like you said, a casual glance sure does make it look like the newer stuff would fit anyway.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Slider on April 10, 2008, 02:29:20 AM
FYI guys

Givi stuff is 1st class. NO leaks and tough as nails. It is Not light to carry up flights of stairs though.

Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Groundpounder on April 16, 2008, 11:17:41 AM
I'm extremely happy with my SW-Motech quick connnect/disconnect toprack and sideracks with SHAD hard bags. IMO, this particular set up is very hard to beat for the money. I really like the option of being able to quickly remove the racks with a quarter from my pocket when I'm not using the bags...a much cleaner look than some of the other set ups out there.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Snubnose on April 16, 2008, 12:01:27 PM
I'm extremely happy with my SW-Motech quick connnect/disconnect toprack and sideracks with SHAD hard bags. IMO, this particular set up is very hard to beat for the money. I really like the option of being able to quickly remove the racks with a quarter from my pocket when I'm not using the bags...a much cleaner look than some of the other set ups out there.
Did you get the  complete set-up at one place or at different places? if different places, was there any particular fitting it to allow for the SHAD bags?.. I had never heard of SHAD prior to this thread, who makes them and where do they originate??
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Groundpounder on April 16, 2008, 02:48:41 PM
I purchased the SW-Motech racks from twistedthrottle.com and the bags from adventuremotousa.com

I hope this hyperlink works...so you can view some of the SHAD products. Like I said, for the money they are hard to beat. I have had mine for 2 years with no problems. They are made in Spain and very comparable to Givi, but less money.

http://http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99331
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Red01 on April 16, 2008, 04:38:27 PM
The shop/guy in that thread is:

http://www.adventuremotousa.com/
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Snubnose on April 16, 2008, 09:54:53 PM
I purchased the SW-Motech racks from twistedthrottle.com and the bags from adventuremotousa.com

I hope this hyperlink works...so you can view some of the SHAD products. Like I said, for the money they are hard to beat. I have had mine for 2 years with no problems. They are made in Spain and very comparable to Givi, but less money.

http://http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99331

So, you must of ordered:
KFT.05.067.100    SW-MOTECH Quick-Lock Sideracks (Suzuki GSF1200 & GSF1200S Bandit, '01-'05) for Givi, TraX ALU-BOX, & Krauser sidecases $229.99          
QLS.00.046.100    SW-MOTECH Keyed Locking Quick-Lock Fasteners (pair) $39.99       
KFT.00.152.115    SW-MOTECH sidecase adapter kit for Quick-Lock sideracks (Shad Motorcases) $49.99

and

DOBS00 SH42 Sidecase Set for $284.99?
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Groundpounder on April 16, 2008, 11:23:10 PM
It was two years ago when I purchased the items, so I'll do my best attempting to recall exactly what I bought. I definitely bought the racks from twistedthrottle.com and according to their web site, I purchased the following items:

SW-MOTECH Alu-rack Toprack / GPT.05.299.100 for $119.99 plus the SHAD topcase adapter for $35.

SW-MOTECH Quick Lock Sideracks / KFT.05.067.100 for $299.99 plus the SHAD sidecase adapters for $49.99

Then, I ordered four (4) SHAD cases from adventuremotousa.com as follows:

SH42 (3 ea) 2 side cases and one top case (for my extended trips)

SH25 - a very nice & compact case for daily use (barely holds my helmet & gloves)

Another nice feature with the SHAD products is the ability to easily swap the guts from the key locks, so you can lock/unlock all of the cases with a single key. Anyway, like I said, I've had them for 2 years and they're holding up extremely well. I've traveled 600 miles in a day, averaging 75-80 miles an hour with all 3 of the SH42s attached without any problems.

I use the SH25 just about every day to carry my lunch and odds & ends to work. I've done 90 plus with it attached and never encountered a problem. Several of my riding buddies have purchased the SH25 case after seeing mine and seem very content with the product as well.

BTW, the guys at adventuremotousa were easy to deal with and even gave me free shipping for purchasing the SH42s as a complete set. Perhaps if anyone else is using SHAD cases, they can share their experience as well.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Snubnose on April 18, 2008, 10:18:25 PM
It was two years ago when I purchased the items,

Could you do me a favour?..take a few pics for me?. I'm interested in the connect points of the luggage to their respective rack areas (both side racks and top rack sw motech). I see twisted throttle sells the shad kit to go with both side and top rack fittings, now do they attach to the racks and then the Plate/s that is supplied from shad  with each case attach to that? or are the include plates from shad not used?

I've just recieved the Ok from my wife to pursue the same "tri" set-up as you, should come in for everything at just under a grand. I Promised to give her my Krauser top case and rack for her B6 in return. LOL!
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Groundpounder on April 19, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
No problem, I'll take some pics of my entire set up this weekend and post the photos as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Snubnose on April 20, 2008, 01:01:13 AM
Hey Groundpounder, another Q if you will please!: The Sw motech adapter for SHAD luggage: I see an "Erik Stephens" , an author on the Twisted Throttle site actually recommends against the use of this SW motech plate as top case comes with free plate anyway. see link below

–https://www.twistedthrottle.com/article/view/120 (https://www.twistedthrottle.com/article/view/120)

He says, 
Quote from: Stephens
"SW-MOTECH also offers a SHAD adapter plate for top cases in both metal and plastic versions. We do not currently recommend this plate for the following reasons:
(1) The SW-MOTECH plate retails for $30; the SHAD plate is free with purchase of the topcase;
(2) The SW-MOTECH plastic plate is more flexible than the SHAD plate, offering less stability; and
(3) The SW-MOTECH plate is not compatible with the SHAD light kit.

What are your thoughts on this? and if this is so, what, if anything comes with the S42 sides cases, and if anything  like connection plates come with the SHAD side cases, do you just not use them in favour of the SW-MOTECH sidecase adapter kit for Quick-Lock sideracks that you purchased from TT ?
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Groundpounder on April 20, 2008, 11:59:22 AM
Here are a few pics of the SHAD set up on my bike. I tried to capture what the bike looks like when I'm riding around without the bags and only the mounting tabs attached. Then, you have a picture of the racks with the SHAD adapters. And finally what the bike looks like with all of the bags attached. As for your questions above, I'll have to get back with you. I have to take another look. Because one top rack is definitely better than the other...I just to verify which is which.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/Groundpounder/bandit%20bags/bikenobags.jpg)

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/Groundpounder/bandit%20bags/bikewithracks.jpg)

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/Groundpounder/bandit%20bags/bikewithbags.jpg)

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/Groundpounder/bandit%20bags/bikewithbagsfront.jpg)

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/Groundpounder/bandit%20bags/bikewithbagsrear.jpg)
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Snubnose on April 20, 2008, 12:46:48 PM
Here are a few pics of the SHAD set up on my bike.

Thanks alot for all your slog (help). Guess what? I have ANOTHER question: The relocation of the back blinkers (indicators), is that an additional bracket behind the license plate bracket they attach to?

cheers mate!
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Groundpounder on April 20, 2008, 03:22:37 PM
I took another look at my top case mount and believe it or not, I actually used a combination of the two top racks. I really like the SW-MOTECH quick disconnect feature. However, the SHAD adapter plate fits the case better. IMO, they're like most products out there...they both have their pros and cons. It's really a matter of preference. I can tell you that the SW-MOTECH racks are very beefy and a quality product.

Also, you will have to relocate your rear turn signals in order to clear the sidecases. This bracket is supplied with the quick-lock sideracks and also serves as one of the rear attaching points. Here are a couple of more pics of the just the mounting tabs. Let me know if you have any more questions.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/Groundpounder/bandit%20bags/bikenobagsleft.jpg)

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/Groundpounder/bandit%20bags/bikenobagsright.jpg)
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: stocksj on August 07, 2008, 09:21:19 AM
I just bought a Bandit 1250 ABS last night. I know I'll need a top case for hauling work junk. The Shad case look great. Are there anyone else making decent cases for someone on a budget?

 Thanks
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: dhcolesj on August 07, 2008, 02:57:00 PM
You killed it with that last word "budget".

Of course, it all depends on your budget.  I had the Suzuki Hardcase bags (side and top with color inserts) mounted for $1100.00 but I'm sure if I had bought them myself and mounted them up I would have saved some money.  The problem is I needed them bought with the bike so the loan would include the cases.   Why?  my budget.  :annoy:
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Snubnose on August 08, 2008, 01:13:50 AM
I just bought a Bandit 1250 ABS last night. I know I'll need a top case for hauling work junk. The Shad case look great. Are there anyone else making decent cases for someone on a budget?

 Thanks

In the end, when it all wraps up, no matter what set-up you end up with...the difference between "budget" hard bag/s with rack system and that of , say Givi or Krauser or kappa etc. is about a 10 to 20 %, maybe 30% initial savings IF you push it. If you're hauling "junk", you may want to think more about durability, and that rules out alot of "budget" bags (if you think saving $50 on a unit is worth it). Krauser, kappa, Givi, hepco becker are all quality cases and will do what you ask of them ( and look good to boot!) and you wont be spending much more at all with the better quality, tested, and better known bags. (Plus , better known bags have better resale).


I have heard that Shad is good, better than alot of stuff out there, but not better than the others I mention here. This said, if saving anywhere between $20 - $50 is important?.. more important that rep, style, superior fitment and quality, then Shad hard luggage is probably the only luggage I would consider (I did actually consider it) before any of the other no-name , flimsy, plastic crap that struggles to actually classify itself as motorcycle ( hello?.. durable?) luggage at all.

I ended up with Givi and my wifes B6 ended up with my "older" Krauser top case set-up. After all the set-up costs were factored in with the "extra fitment kits for shad luggage" as well, I think my price for a "3" case system with the Shad luggage and the sw-motech rack system was about $100 less than the same system with Givi E46 monokey top case and E41 monokey/and keyless side panniers with silver satin finish on all 3.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: stocksj on August 08, 2008, 07:37:56 AM
When I was at the dealership finishing the paperwork on the bike 2 days ago I had the Suzuki top case and mounting bracket priced quoted and came to $530. I didn't bother with side case as it would have probably took it up to a grand.

 Nothing nice is ever cheap.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: bottomfeeder on August 08, 2008, 08:34:03 PM
stocksj,   For budget cases try jcwhitney.com

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductBrowse?storeId=10101&Pr=p_Product.CATENTRY_ID%3A2010969&productId=2010969&catalogId=10111&N=111%2B10211%2B600010293&rlid=home_best
I have a givi top case also ...
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: plbandit on September 22, 2008, 02:55:10 PM
stocksj,   For budget cases try jcwhitney.com

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductBrowse?storeId=10101&Pr=p_Product.CATENTRY_ID%3A2010969&productId=2010969&catalogId=10111&N=111%2B10211%2B600010293&rlid=home_best
I have a givi top case also ...

+1

I use the jc whit's as side cases and got them for about $170 compared to almost $400 for the equiv e360's. I know they're not on par for quality but they are very usable and have served me very well. I wouldn't hesitate to do it again cause I can't justify spending $700 for side cases.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: bonanaza on September 22, 2008, 05:58:40 PM
What sort of rack did you use with the JC Whitney side cases?
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: oldandslow on September 23, 2008, 04:57:53 PM
My only experience is with Givi's (many years), so I can't comment on JC Whitney's.

But I CAN say, with confidence, the the Givi 52 liter topcase does an admirable job as a frame slider  :shock: :grin:
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: dhcolesj on September 23, 2008, 05:25:26 PM
So do their Monokey side cases. 

Not that I'd know . . .  :embarassed:
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Groundpounder on October 31, 2008, 04:41:11 PM
I know this is an old thread. However, since then I have sold my bandit and the SHAD luggage set up pictured in this thread will be for sale. I'll be posting the items shortly in the classified section, as well as the Corbin seat...stay tuned in if you're interested.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: plbandit on October 31, 2008, 04:53:08 PM
What sort of rack did you use with the JC Whitney side cases?

Sorry about the LOOONG delay haha.

I used the SW Motech rack.  I'm having second thoughts on the cases though. Quality issues are aplenty. I feel like my hand is forced a bit though, I really can't afford the givis.

Thus far the issues haven't been that bad, but a pin just fell out of one of the hinges.. which was like ughhh.. not again. So now I've gotta fine something to replace it and stay in place and not rust.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Ga-Bandit on November 16, 2008, 04:16:32 PM
I haven't seen a how to or pics for the bags on a bandit so here's mine:

Use blue thread lock on everything! Directions are on all three sheets that you'll need to decode..............

Take the rear passenger peg bolts out and loosen the fronts. Make sure your can is cool enough to touch.

Take the grab rail off. Take the blinkers off. They route up behind your tool kit. Just need to take the 8mm bolt off and unplug.

Intall the top rack w/o the rear bolt (old grab rail location) since it will have a spacer and will mount the side racks. It'll be mounted w/ the 2 rear passenger pegs bolts and the forward bolts from the grab rail location.

Use parts to cap off your old blinker locations unless your flush mounting them (picture below).

Loosely install the side racks starting with the middle, the front, and then install the spaced out rear and torque it down, then torque the other two bolts.

Remove/replace the front rear pegs and use a spacer washer on the backside so it'll stay aligned w/ the spaced out rear (due to the side racks).

Install back bar that connects the two side racks (picture below).

I recommend waiting on using the plastic caps on the bolt heads so you can recheck the torque after a few miles - up to you.

Cuse, cuse some more because now they want you to tuck your blinkers out through the rear taillight - how cheap and gaudy looking.

Install blinkers on side mounts.

Recuse the tucking of the blinker leads. Tuck blinker leads under taillight or be creative but hook 'em up so you'll have blinky blinks. I know guys that drilled holes and put rubber gromlets in and ran them through that way with a squirt of silicone)

Wait a couple of hours or overnight for the thread lock to work. You can mount and un mount the bags a few times to stay amuzed and dream of cargo carrying.

Mount bags and enjoy ride.

Ride to mountains and BUST some unsuspecting sportbikes a new one.

Ride home laughing and gestering as you ride w/ your head getting thrown back and forth from laughter as you relive that moment when the Gixxer caught up and asked...what is that???

Watch your wifes eyes roll as you tell her the story.

I've posted this also on: http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34138

and I've included one of my puppy because he loved to ride when he was smaller. He'd actually lean and turn with the bike and cause it's my story....Ride safe and remember the golden rule.

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/4/1/2/5/2/webimg/185060205_o.jpg)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/4/1/2/5/2/webimg/185060318_o.jpg)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/4/1/2/5/2/webimg/185060265_o.jpg)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/4/1/2/5/2/webimg/185060362_o.jpg)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/4/1/2/5/2/webimg/185060473_o.jpg)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/4/1/2/5/2/webimg/198047971_o.jpg)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/4/1/2/5/2/webimg/171077974_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Ga-Bandit on November 18, 2008, 11:23:16 PM
stocksj,   For budget cases try jcwhitney.com

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductBrowse?storeId=10101&Pr=p_Product.CATENTRY_ID%3A2010969&productId=2010969&catalogId=10111&N=111%2B10211%2B600010293&rlid=home_best
I have a givi top case also ...

+1

I use the jc whit's as side cases and got them for about $170 compared to almost $400 for the equiv e360's. I know they're not on par for quality but they are very usable and have served me very well. I wouldn't hesitate to do it again cause I can't justify spending $700 for side cases.

I know a few people that have the JCWhitneys and are completely satisfied. One of them later found a givi with scratches on feebay for cheap ans was able to polish/bondo/paint them completely out and they now look better than mine. If you paint them be sure to use proper cleaning (prep) and a plastic promoter= great results from a can.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Groundpounder on January 30, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
Just wanted to pass along that my entire luggage system pictured in this thread is up for auction on eBay. Seriously doubt if you will find a better set up for the money. Check out if you're interested, and/or email me if you have questions.
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Ga-Bandit on January 31, 2009, 03:17:31 AM
Give us a link.


Is it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SW-Motech-racks-and-Shad-cases-for-Suzuki-Bandit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem180324680868QQitemZ180324680868QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Gaoler on March 10, 2009, 04:58:15 PM
2008 Bandit 1250
Came with OEM racks and side bags...
I purchased the OEM top case rack and instead of the $400-$500 Givi/Suzuki top case went with the $85USD JC Whitney knockoff.... Works fine.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Girlieman/DSCF2286.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Girlieman/DSCF2287.jpg)

Here's the bike before the top case rack was added..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Girlieman/Bandit2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Girlieman/Bandit1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Ga-Bandit on March 10, 2009, 11:00:29 PM
Congrats!

The stock top rack is soo much better than the givi. MotoSW or whatever has the best side setup (wished I had gotten those).

You belong to the Two Wheeled Texas Site also?
http://www.twtex.com/
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Gaoler on March 11, 2009, 08:53:34 AM
Congrats!


You belong to the Two Wheeled Texas Site also?
http://www.twtex.com/


Maybe.... I've read the site and may have signed on at one point, but.... Don't recall my password
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: erda on June 07, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
Couple of questions regarding the Suzuki cases: Are they re-badged Givis? Does anyone have the top case and rack-it seems to me that the case interferes with the pillion? Can the top case be moved back to provide more room?
Does the Givi or SW-Motech mount the top case further back to give more room for the pillion?
Thanks
erda
Title: Re: Bandit Hard Bags set-up
Post by: Ga-Bandit on June 07, 2009, 12:51:28 PM
The stock bags are Givi with a suzuki badge. The Givi top mount puts the bag alot farther back and alot higher than the Suzuki one. I prefer the stock over givi. The grab handle come off on the stock but not the givi (or so I've been told). Here are pics of mine:
http://forums.banditalley.net/index.php?topic=10618.msg92386#msg92386