Author Topic: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams  (Read 12172 times)

Offline Vidrazor

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2008, 06:11:14 PM »
That link didn't go through, let me know where else I can send that to you.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2008, 08:17:13 PM »
I resent the PM with more addresses.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2008, 12:47:19 AM »
I'm surprised you couldn't find the info you were looking for. I don't quite understand what's so unusual about your bike.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2008, 05:16:31 AM »
Nothing unusual about it at all. Ive never found one for my 93 p model either. I think the only way one might ever be found is searching for a japanese manual.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2008, 02:40:42 PM »
I think I'll make a trip to the stealer and see if they have one. Fat chance.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2008, 10:02:22 PM »
What is the "P" model anyway? Can it be rewired to be more conventional? Perhaps that would solve the problem, not exactly as you expected, but solve it nonetheless.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2008, 10:10:02 PM »
P is the year designation
gsf400M == 1991 (never should have sold my '91 :( )
gsf400N == 1992
gsf400P == 1993

The CDI (and other bits) are different for 1993. Valve train changed a bit, other tuning bits changed as well. And it seems they put in a speed limiter (controlled by the 7th wire on the CDI). I suppose it would be possible to rewire it for an unlimited cdi, but then you might run into differences in ignition timing and such between the models. I don't know, frankly. Jay seems to have the most knowledge on this particular aspect.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2008, 11:35:24 PM »
Yeah, the P had a few differences.  I don't think I remember them all anymore.  CDI, gearing, wheel color, plugs...  I think valve clearances...  There are 93 shop manuals around with all the P specs.  I had one but gave it to the guy that bought the bike. 
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Offline Chris H

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2008, 04:06:11 PM »
Hi andy, are you sure your bike is a US model? and not a jap! are ths US bikes restricted? sounds like yours is, all models only got 6 wires from the cdi, the sidestand wires are green and black/white tracer coming out of the loom with the main battry wires also with the gear wire, the green yellow one that we spoke about the resistor pluggin into, on the wiring diagram ive got for the P model there seems to be no diffrences, the only diffrences are valve clearences,valve stem dia,cam height,spark plugs and some carb specs.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2008, 05:12:53 PM »
Yeah i think it is jap imports that have the 7th wire only.

Offline Chris H

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2008, 05:50:13 PM »
Had another look and think the US/canadian models have a clutch switch, must be under the lever, that other models do not, this seems one way to check. I think Bandimax is correct or someone fitted jap parts at sometime!!
« Last Edit: May 06, 2008, 06:43:09 PM by Chris H »

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2008, 11:33:09 AM »
I won't deny that it's possible. What I haven't checked is whether there's any voltage running through that wire. Maybe it's just plugging into a dead terminal on the cdi?

Definitely some weird stuff has been done to it electrically. I have no sidestand switch, someone doctored the wiring to make it work without it. I know, it's dangerous... but I'm used to it. A few of the parts have been drilled for safety wire too, so it's kinda hard to say what else has been done.

Are there other clues that would point to whether it's a jap import or not? If someone put a jap cdi in it, then they must have put a jap wiring loom in as well, 'cause that wire is running through the loom.

Anyway, it's a mystery.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2008, 11:52:15 AM »
umm 33mm carbs are a big clue.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2008, 01:50:15 PM »
US bike should only have one blue wire for the neutral sensor, the jap one will have two, these being green/yel and blue, the blue one is usually got a cloth style covering. most obvious would have been kmph speedo, twin discs, stainless exhaust and really tidy chrome bullet indicators,  but these are only diffrences to uk bike and i not know how yours stacks up! but some things may help you.

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Re: I need readable '93 (gsf400P) wiring diagrams
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2008, 05:23:43 PM »
Why not take a close-up shot of the wires coming out, maybe somebody can ID it.