Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: MasterM3 on March 30, 2006, 07:03:05 PM
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Hey guys,
I guess you could say I post a lot of off topic posts, but being so new to the bandit community, I love learning more about fellow Bandit owners. If you are bored and got a couple minutes to spare, go ahead and post up some info on your bike. (year, mileage, history, mods etc) I'll start it off
1991 GSF400
Just turned 28,000 miles
I bought this bike with 27,600 miles on it. Previous owner was another college student who worked extensively on the bike with his father. Owner before that was a Girl, (license plate used to be WENDYZ)
Bike is red, I believe the tank was repainted since it so shiny compared to the plastic bits. I've got the headlight fairing which I guess is rare.
Right now the bike is stock, a slip on will soon be installed.
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This previous post pretty much sums up my Bandit. Currently has about 4,000 miles.
http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=4773
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1991 400 Bandit
Silver Frame
Silver Wheels
Tank, plastics, and Flyscreen soon to be painted black
Just passed 8600 miles last week (bought it with about 7800 last October)
Slip on holeshot exhaust
New Maxxis Promax Tires
I bought this bike for $500 from a friend who had thought the coils had stopped working but what it really needed were some new plugs. Love the bike and I intend to keep her around for years to come.
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gosh, i thought my bike had low miles. lol guess i was wrong
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Cool thread. Haven't had time to post in it. The photo gallery thread is getting kinda messy anyway. Now stickied.
'93 GSF400 - ~19k miles
Dual Headlights with a CF Buell XB flyscreen
Suburban Machinery Type #1 bars
Crappy square black Emgo mirrors
Silver bodywork/crappy chipped orig red frame/black wheels
Gimble solo cowl
Custom dented tank
CF-look accents
Clear lens signals - radiator-mounted minis in front, flushmounts out back
Rear fender cut flush
Hugger removed, replaced with custom-cut GS500 chain guard
GSXR rider pegs
Custom jetted w/ Factory Pro TI needles
Hacked airbox w/ K&N filter
Custom exhaust - V&H headers, custom made mid, M4 TI can
Progressive fork springs
2nd Gen Bandit 1200 shock
Metzeler M1s (110/70 and 150/60) soon to be replaced with Powers
I think that's it. Soon, I'll be using clipons with a top triple that has it's towers ground off and painted black. I really need to get it on the dyno.
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Not too much to say, but here goes...
93 GSF400 with 16,500mi
stock red
purchased 2 years ago with ~14,300mi on it from a guy who raced Ducati Monsters (or was it his son?)
Yoshi 4-2-1 pipe and can (growls at idle, and absolutely screams above 10K!)
#105 Main jets
removed hugger and chainguard
supersport handlebars - slightly lower than stock
Black, F1 style mirrors - looking at bar end mirrors this summer.
Thinking about that Gimble seat cowl, but then, I'm still single and I plan on putting lots o really, really, really hot chicks on back this summer!
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banditV 400cc VVC
yellow stripped with blue
rear butt lifted (2inches)
batlax 020 rear tire (180x55)
45t rear sprocket (adds more speed)
metzeler front tire
gsxr transmission
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Some interesting Bandits on this site. :) Good to see some fettled 400s.
Mine's pretty stock (at the mo);
'89 Jap import B4
Stainless race can
Custom Paint in Suzuki racing colours
2ng gen B12 shock
K+N filter
Dynojet kit
Errmm...teeny arrow indicators :roll:
End of summer it comes off the road;
powder coated frame *mystery colour*
powder coated wheels with polished rim *again, mystery colour*
Lots of polished bits (engine casings, peg hangers, yokes etc)
GSX-R swingarm (also to be polished :wink: )
Progressive fork springs
Lightly ported head with some GSX-R cams (maybe)
Twin headlights
Cant wait to get it all sorted but i'd rather ride it this summer than keep it off the road. :bigok:
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Well, mine sounds about average,But here goes.
It is a 91 B4,red in color and has 18,135 miles on it.
That is what the speedo says anyway.
Got it in a computer trade. (I built him a new system)
I have just rebuilt the top end,and also the forks.
He let it set in his shed for only 6 yrs :duh:
So the rings had stuck to the pistons.
Any way it is still 100% stock, but it is a work in progress.
Still waitng for the front fender to come in.
and then new brake pads.
And it has a sweet sound when it is running!!!
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2004 B1200S (green?)
22,000 miles (all mine :grin: )
Krauser top and side hard cases
Throttlemeister (don't use it much)
Suzuki touring windshield
engine guards
Desperately wanting non-OEM exhaust can!!
Desperately wanting non-OEM blinkers!!
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Isn't this the B4 forum?
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We've got an intruder! :lol:
Shit, now i ended up in here... might as well say the stuff..:
1991 B4, typical red, single disk version.
It's quite standard but looks like hell, i mean: I put a chrome front thingie on it, but isn't placed well yet and the front fender is black :roll:
For the moment it's standing ready (also bought the Argentinan CDI, works perfectly! fired right up!), just waiting till i solve the charging problem....wel actually the forks are leaking but that's my noob project for summer.
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92' B400, completely stock. Still has stock tires and everything. Only 2500 miles, not running correctly :boohoo: Working despererately to get this masterpiece running like a champ. Everything is bone stock, not a scratch on it, looks like it rolled off the showroom floor and stopped running (I think that's what it did anyways)
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I just bought the bandit 400 today! I have been looking for so long! 1991 black in color... super sweet! I love it I love it I love it I love it :banana: :banana: :banana: Although, there is a carb/jetting issue I have to have worked out.
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this is my simple yellow bandit here in philippines
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jomed/mybanditbutt.jpg)
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hi,
I've just got myself one of these bandit 400's. Its a 1991 import (to the UK) in black. pretty standard, just powdercoacted wheels and swingarm, and a few polished bits, yoke and brake resevoir covers and the like
a long list of wants...rgv swingarm, gsxr750 front....short list of bank notes!
a lot of good info on the site, like how to's, keep it up
(http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006\10\23\bikepics-708501-full.jpg)
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This should be an image of my New Bandit!
400 import, Maroon / Red with just under 3000k on the clock. Can't wait to get it out on the road, one or two things just holding me back at the moment.
Picked it up for just under £900 (GBP)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p225/speedwaymaniac/SuzukiBandit4004.jpg)
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1991 Canada version, w/ 27500 km.
Rifle superbike fairing
Kellerman bar-end signals
Hagen sport mirrors
Cibie biode headlamp
Metmachex swinging arm
Have been wanting one for many years, even though I my other bikes are a Falco Fighter and Laverda Ghost, I was in a position to buy this one so I did!
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91 GSF400 with 22,000 KM
The bike's just about stock, but I've only owned for a few months so the fun has just begun!
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/trickeyp/Bandit%20Pics/ParisRide2006-6.jpg)
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Well
My sweet little bandit is 15 years old and she has 46500 km,I bought it 7 months ago but due to some personal problems I ride her only for the pst 2 months,She is black and she is in a pretty bad condition,This is going to change as soon as I'll have my car repaired(I really hope before christmass).She has white rims.
Soon to be tuned although my mechanich says I just drop money to the wind,anyone who has any suggestion tha can help me on the tunning subject please e-mail me
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Hi guys,
Mine is a '94 Bandit GSF400P, so far,
-Steel braided brake-lines
-Head fairing "not mounted yet"
Still pretty stock, but waiting for the cash flow to free up a little before I do major work on her.
P.S. My other ride is a Gilera DNA 180
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/danielburgess/signature-1.jpg)
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Last time I tried to post, I took too long to spit it all out and got logged out before posting. I own two red '93's. One stocker and one rocker. The first one sports a '02 YZF600 front end and an '01 GSX-R750 rear shock. Bought it with a Yosh F/S and a rear cowl. The second arrived a year later bone stock. The stock bike has become an engine donor for the meantime. I am rebuilding the orig. first engine as it gave up the ghost at 75K.
I live in Phoenix, ride year round, and manage the parts department for a MC dealership. I like to think I know my stuff.
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Well heres my b4 now ive got it cleaned up. I got it for the bargain price of £450 and all it needed was a new chain and sprocket set and The carbs cleaning. Im now on the hunt for a belly pan, a set of handlebar style top yokes so i can fit a set of renthal bars. Then maybe a set of twin lights and a screen to finish it off. Next year sometime ill get the wheels powdercoated orange as its a bit plain at the moment. (http://myspace-996.vo.llnwd.net/01540/69/90/1540830996_l.jpg)
(http://myspace-859.vo.llnwd.net/01540/95/81/1540831859_l.jpg)
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Here's my Bandit...bone stock except for braided steel front brake hoses, belly pan, windscreen, and a Mity Mike end-can
...Mity Mike is a manufacturer/fabricator of motorcycle exhausts based in the Philippines...
The can sounds really great too... had one on my previous 250cc Bandit as well.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o315/saint_furious/DSC03694.jpg)
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Hello all.
Mines a Completely black 1994 Variable valve model imported from japan. My first 'big bike'.
Its stock apart from bug-eye lights, remus hugger, and a not-so-legal remus evolution end can.
Only cost me £200 for the bike and another £200 for work done. Bargain of the century! Goes to show; its not what you know but who you know.
She's a beauty but she hates me and only runs when she feels like it.
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Newbie hear and shes my first road bike (17 when i 1st bought her)
92' VV 36*** Km
Raised Back End
Front Forks Dropped Through The Yokes About 3/4 inch
Front Headlight
Aftermarket end can
New o-ring chain
In the not so distant future she wil be getting
USD Front Fork Conversion
Stage 1 Engine Kit
Dyno Run and Set Up
The list could go on.................... :motorsmile:
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Dont get a dynojet stage 1 engine kit buy a factory pro titanium one as the needles last longer.
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Here's my Bandit...bone stock except for braided steel front brake hoses, belly pan, windscreen, and a Mity Mike end-can
...Mity Mike is a manufacturer/fabricator of motorcycle exhausts based in the Philippines...
The can sounds really great too... had one on my previous 250cc Bandit as well.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o315/saint_furious/DSC03694.jpg)
Thats PIMP! Real clean
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Here's my '91 Bandit, which I am currently in the process of cleaning up.
She's got a Laser full system with carbon can, braided front brake lines and I'll be re-jetting next weekend.
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/Cyanide88/PICT0672.jpg)
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/Cyanide88/PICT0677.jpg)
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hum says V but looks to be a normal 400 motor and not the V cheers nice bike
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hum says V but looks to be a normal 400 motor and not the V cheers nice bike
It's not a VV model, it just had no stickers on when I got it and the only ones I could find were the V ones :duh:
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My bandit:
B250, 45hp version, bone stock. 31,000km, Japan import.
Black frame, tank and tail, silver/bronze coloured rims.
Plans are to clean it up, leave it as is, and save up for a big bandit when i'm off restrictions.
that said, i'm in the process of designing up a twin headlight conversion to give it a more streetfighter look.
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My bandit:
B250, 45hp version, bone stock. 31,000km, Japan import.
Black frame, tank and tail, silver/bronze coloured rims.
Plans are to clean it up, leave it as is, and save up for a big bandit when i'm off restrictions.
that said, i'm in the process of designing up a twin headlight conversion to give it a more streetfighter look.
Interesting :motorsmile:
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yeah leave it as is, as in no modifications to the motor, exhaust, intake, etc. it's only a 250 and it'll never be fast enough to warrent the $$$ spent on modding it.
in under a year i'll be off restrictions and then it's big bore time, and that means i've gotta get saving for the new bike! so no money for mods to the B250.
GSXR-1000 2002mdl is appealing to me at this moment, good for track days!
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GSXR-1000 2002mdl is appealing to me at this moment, good for track days!
Another interesting one , ever riden one? let alone on a track I have no plans my self to ever race one do a track day on one and yes i have ridin a few on the street and track and FOOOOOOOOK let me tell you they are scary. 600 is plenty for anyone and a good all around bike.
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Naaa... you need a 1000 on the street so you can beat all those Bugatti Veyrons& McLaren F1s in the 0-60 races. :wink:
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GSXR-1000 2002mdl is appealing to me at this moment, good for track days![/quote]
A buddy just got rid of his Aprillia Mille track bike because it was way too much and got a DRZ 400sm for the street and a 05 GSXR 600 for the track instead. Really, unless you're last name is Spies, Mladin or Biaggi, you'll never get everything out of a literbike on the street or the track.
Before you think he's some rich schmoe, he's a track day nut and had a prepped SV before the Mille (got the Mille for like 7k) and had more fun on less HP. You can only go so fast in a corner...
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hello everyone :grin: Just bought a Bandit 400 , in a few boxes , needing a lot of work :wink: I've not got a garage or the knowledge to fix the thing (yet) :lol: Oooooooo did I mention I don't know how to ride one yet or if I'm big enough (I'm kinda wee) :duh: :lol: :lol: but looking forward to trying to get this thing on the road and making it look a bit better :taz: Let you know how it goes , but I'm guessing it's going to be slow, but I want to do this >> :motorsmile: :lol: :lol:
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Just bought a Bandit 400 , in a few boxes , needing a lot of work...I've not got a garage or the knowledge to fix the thing...I don't know how to ride one yet
You have a lot of ground to cover! I would like to know more about how you decided on getting a bike that needs repair, since you are not yet a rider. A very interesting path you chose...
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You have a lot of ground to cover! I would like to know more about how you decided on getting a bike that needs repair, since you are not yet a rider. A very interesting path you chose...
I been there and done that. It's slow and sucks. Once you're done, take it to a mechanic to get it all checked over... safety first. The bandit 400 has one of the lowest seat hights I've seen. I'm sure you could lower it further if really required. Good luck.
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You have a lot of ground to cover! I would like to know more about how you decided on getting a bike that needs repair, since you are not yet a rider. A very interesting path you chose...
Easy to explain- I'm not rich :lol: - My BF is a bike mechanic, and going to teach me most of it, nice eh?? When I decided I wanted to ride a bike, I thought I would be better off knowing what's what and how things work, so I know how to maintain and run it properly. Hopefully I'll enjoy it. The whole CBT and Test is a different matter :lol:
I been there and done that. It's slow and sucks. Once you're done, take it to a mechanic to get it all checked over... safety first. The bandit 400 has one of the lowest seat hights I've seen. I'm sure you could lower it further if really required. Good luck.
:grin: Thanks for stating about the whole saftey thing - But as I said above ^^^ The BF is a bike mechanic, and a stickler for things like that (I'll propbably be wrapped in bubble wrap, when I eventually get on the bike) :lol: :lol: - But :thanks: for saying about the seat hight - It's something I'm worried about - as all other bike's I've tried are just too big - If this doesn't work I'll be learning how to make a chopper :taz: :taz: :lol:
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Just for my personal edification I have a question. What is the acronym BF, boy friend or best friend? :popcorn2:
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When I decided I wanted to ride a bike, I thought I would be better off knowing what's what and how things work, so I know how to maintain and run it properly. Hopefully I'll enjoy it. The whole CBT and Test is a different matter :lol:
:welcome: & :congrats: on your purchase.
One quick question though:
Did you buy a fixer-upper car and and rebuild it before you learned to drive? :lol:
:clap: & :beers: to you for wanting to learn the mechanical aspects of motorcycles anyway. :bigok:
(Most of what you learn will apply to anything with an engine, so it's all good.)
Some of us here are old enough to remember that's how you HAD to be to be a rider of even a new bike. Fortunately, those days are behind us. Most of us would much rather ride than wrench. :motorsmile:
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BF generally means boyfriend in england
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Oh yeah, I remember now I saw it on a TV commercial about texting messages where the phrase "My BFF Jill" = "My best friend Jill". So BF = boy friend. Oh crap, I have to go punch out my neighbor!
BF generally means boyfriend in england
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:duh: :lol: :shock:
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Oh yeah, I remember now I saw it on a TV commercial about texting messages where the phrase "My BFF Jill" = "My best friend Jill". So BF = boy friend. Oh crap, I have to go punch out my neighbor!
BFF = Best Friend Forever
So, if they're only a temporary best friend, like until a better one comes along, I guess they could be just a BF? :shrug:
I know... :stfu:
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:lol: :lol: FFS Are you all taking the proverbial "P" ?
I meant Boyfriend - the guy I stay with :grin: (he's lovely)
I don't drive - I've never tried. Feel safer on a bike - before you ask, I have no idea why !! As for getting a bike that needs work, well I would want to change a lot on a new bike, ie the seat hight, front forks, swingarm, handlebars etc, so no big deal, and i like learning useful stuff, and knowing how things work, so that if anything goes wrong I'll know what's causing the problem - Ooooo :thanks: for the welcome btw :grin:
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How rude of me, I forgot. Welcome and you be careful young lady those parts can be heavy even for an old guy like me, make sure to get your BF's help. I always try and get my BFF neighbors help, at least I used to until yesterday. Anyway TATA for now.
:lol: :lol: FFS Are you all taking the proverbial "P" ?
I meant Boyfriend - the guy I stay with :grin: (he's lovely)
I don't drive - I've never tried. Feel safer on a bike - before you ask, I have no idea why !! As for getting a bike that needs work, well I would want to change a lot on a new bike, ie the seat hight, front forks, swingarm, handlebars etc, so no big deal, and i like learning useful stuff, and knowing how things work, so that if anything goes wrong I'll know what's causing the problem - Ooooo :thanks: for the welcome btw :grin:
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Hey guys...
Here she is in all her glory...a huge job to get all the parts shipped mostly from Jay & a few from Singapore & dont think i would have got it done without the help..so thanks again Jay as well as all the usefull info on the site.
Its been almost a 5 month project ,a lot of headaches,a lot of walking to work & a lot of trips to the post office but damn it was worth it..she runs like a clock now.
Apart from a full stripdown & respray parts replaced were as follows.
emulsion tubes
pilot jet plugs
valve keepers
valve seals
factory pro jet kit
carb rebuild kit
head gasket
starter cover gasket
clutch cover gasket.
Set brake/clutch levers
carb diaphram
Rubber footrest
Cable assy clutch
Hose water pump outlet
Hose radiator inlet
Hose radiator outlet
Hose radiator joint
Hose radiator joint
exhaust pipe gasket
air filter
water pump gasket
water pump shaft seal
oil seal
water pump gasket
cylinder head gasket
Oil filter
Brake pads
Fork seals.caps.
GSXR 100 rear shock
and a partridge in a pear tree !!
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/balichef/DSC00790.jpg)
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:bigok: Very nice! :thumb: :beers:
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Wow...looks really clean and new. Great job. :congrats:
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Super clean mate something to truly be happy about :beers:
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Hi everyone..i guess this is the right place for introduction.just got my used bandit in 2months ago.
Its a 1995 model.i did few upgrades on it.
Tag Metal T2 oversize bar and universal clamps.
DRZ signals indicator
Headlight
ASV clutch lever and perch
other than that the bike is pretty much stock.i am reading on the direct switch on the fork to inverted fork from the GSXR...so that is my next wishlist to lookout from the scrapyard..hehe..and maybe who knows,rear swingarm maybe...hmm... :duh:
(http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/12/23/bikepics-1124175-800.jpg)
Cheers from Singapore. :beers:
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Welcome, AJ! Wicked looking bike! I love it. Are you sure it's a 95, though? It sure looks like a first generation bike (through 94). See the BA Wiki on the B4 (http://www.banditalley.net/wiki/doku.php?id=gsf400).
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sorry dude...didnt really know much about it...maybe you're right...
well,in Singapore,the Alphabet of the registration plate meaning it is registered in 1995..so i just made a wild guess...
another point,its right side start switch has got no off-light switch...meaning if you turn on your ignition,the headlights will auto ON.a friend who owns the 93' model,has got the on/off switch for the lights..i believe the older batch got the on/off switch and the later batch didnt due to the road rule to have the lights ON at all times...
anyways,thanks for the welcome buddy..cheers.
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Hi guys new member here from South Africa. After a couple of roadbikes I went to the dual sport side (still own a DRZ 400) and now after a couple of years bought another road bike. Yep a Bandit being a bit of a Suzuki fan. It's a Japanese spec 1995 400VV gen 2 model. It's all stock, it needs new fork seals and I think a carb clean and filter as it's quite heavy on fuel. Love it to bits, get to 10 000 rpm and the variable valve solonoid kicks in. Don't know if it really makes better power but it's a cool concept none the less :grin:
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j220/mordies/DSC_0460.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j220/mordies/DSC_0468.jpg)
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Sharp love that style
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:clap: Some sweeet looking 400s! nice job gents :beers:
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My B400 is my first bike. I took a motorcycle safety course in August of 2006. It was the first time I'd ever been on a bike. That winter, I found a B400 that had been sitting for almost 10 years. I paid $50 under the $800 asking price, tossed it on the truck and spent the rest of the winter sorting it out. The tank was rusted to shit and the carbs were pretty gummed up. Other than that, it was pretty good. Basically everything rubber needed to be gone through and some of it needed to be replaced. The bike had 3400 miles when I picked it up. Even after 10 years, when I drained it the oil, it smelled/looked new.
The second time I'd ever been on a bike was the test run around the block, using a 20oz pepsi bottle as a fuel tank. :roll:
It's been running like a champ ever since.
This is what came out of the fuel tank when I drained it:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/2514172654_87b0d4fb47.jpg)
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:congrats:
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Bandit 250
15,000Ks
Daytona screen
Upgraded HT leads (old ones were sparking in the rain)
Phoenix Racing exhaust
Super Bright blue bulb & LED rear bulb
Gold wide bars
Non-slip pillion seat cover off e-bay
Usually ride big bikes but this is a cheap commuter out here in Japan and it's surprisingly fun to ride. Did 375k the other weekend around Mt Fuji and kept up with other bikes easily. Would like to change the blue bar ends and tires which the previous owner put on.
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7831/dsc00023od0.jpg)
(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1761/dsc00024xz4.jpg)
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8394/dsc00025fk3.jpg)
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Hi All,
Newly arrived at this forum and it seems like a real great place for info and advice.
I've just bought myself a running 1992 Bandit 400 with the variable valve timing. I'll try to pop up some pictures over the coming week or so.
Please all be prepared for a ton of basic, noob questions over the coming weeks. Thanks in advance.
Later.
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@bandit250: what screen is that? I likey.
@toomanycooks: welcome! Questions are good.
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Thanks, it's made by Daytona and fits many bikes.
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Hi All,
I'm from the UK and recently passed my test. I was recommended a Bandit 400 so my search began.
Just bought a 1997 Bandit GSF400V-V in Pearl Novelty Black (code 33J) which is black with blue flecks in the paint. It has the Bandit script badge on either side of the tank, but nothing on the rear. I found a picture of a similar bike that does have a decal on the tail, but I cannot make out what it says.
Mileage is showing 16,000KM's
The bike is standard as far as I know.
Cheers,
Scott
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Hi All,
Also from the UK. The B400 is the wife's bike and was bought during the grey import boom a few years back from Bike Direct in Bristol. It's a 1991 Ltd VVT, so should be red and black, but has been resprayed (pretty badly) in the blue and silver of the non-VVT Ltd model. It has a Yoshi exhaust system but, apart from that, is standard.
After riding it for a couple of years, she lost interest and it stood outside under a cover for 6 years (yes, really!). Recently she decided she wanted to start riding again and asked me "could you get it running?".....
Initially she wouldn't fire up, but I traced the fault to the ignition timing coil under the left engine cover. I also replaced the plugs, ignition coils and leads, oil, filter, coolant, brake fluid and pads, fork seals (dust and oil), polished the fork legs and am painting the singarm before she goes for an MOT.
Wish me luck!
Cheers, Chaz
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Hi all,
I have owned my 1993 400 P model since new. Modifications include the following:
Yoshimura pipe
Factory jet kit
K&N air filter
SBS pads (front and rear)
Stainless brake lines (also front and rear)
EBC Contour front rotor
Race Tech cartridge fork emulator
Sargent seat
Avon Azaro rubber
If I ever find a bike a like better I'll buy it, but so far, it's been a long fruitless search. I'm hoping all of you will have some new ideas for me in the modifications department so that I never have to get rid of my Bandit.
Pics will follow (if I can figure out how to use the new camera). :banghead:
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welcome!
just give up the search. There is no better bike than the B4 :thumb:
meanwhile, head over the 250/400 section of the forums. There's lots of great help there.
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:toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:
meanwhile, head over the 250/400 section of the forums. There's lots of great help there.
:rofl: :rofl: That's where this thread lives! :rofl: :rofl:
:motorsmile: :bikeflip: :burnout: :yikes3:
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:duh:
I guess I was working from the dull end of the stick yesterday... :rofl:
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Update on the B400 Ltd. She passed her MOT yesterday and is now back on the road after a 6 year layoff.
Going like a train, too :-)
Cheers, Chaz
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Cool! Congrats on the MOT pass. Got photos??
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Hi guys,
I´m new in this forum here and I´d like to introduce myself and our bikes.
I´m sorry for my bad english but I´m from germany and it took me at least two weeks to get
registered in your forum. Normally I can be found in the german www.banditforum.de with the same username.
But there the B4 isn´t that much seen as here, so I hope to find some suggestions for my B4 project.
I´m 26 years old and I have a B6 and a gsxr 750 from 1989 with a b12 engine.
After I rode my girlfriends B4 after taking out the throttle it was clear I need one myself.
This is my girls bike
(http://34er-biker.de/img/data/media/144/Die_Rote_Zora_und_Die_Wildsau_28.04.06_001s.jpg)
we bought it in a very bad condition, so we put it in its parts, coloured it black and put it back together...
we also did with my brothers b4 a year before.
so now I want one myself, the frame still was lying in the garage and an engine I´ve found already.
I´d like to give her some extra power and the swingarm of the b12 with 5,5 wheel, sticked togehter it looks quite good... *g*
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Welcome to the forum! :welcome: Nice looking B4. Once you get your own, you won't want to ride anything else. My barn is full of bikes, but the B4 is the one I ride most. By the way, your English is, I suspect, far better than most of our German. Wie geht's?
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Nice bike Uncle.Jay! :beers:
Your English is very good, too. Better than some of the people here who speak/type it as their home language. :thumb: :bandit:
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Welcome, I have visited in banditforum.de every week.
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Thank you!
My girl wants the rims paintet black in the same colour as the bodykit is :bigok:
But so far she just didn´t clean the wheels :thumb:
thats okay for me, cause I think the bikes are for riding not for cleaning :motorsmile:
heres a picture of my bike, klick to enlarge
(http://34er-biker.de/img/data/thumbnails/144/P1000441.JPG) (http://34er-biker.de/img/data/media/144/P1000441.JPG)
and my B6, at the moment not ready to ride
(http://34er-biker.de/img/data/thumbnails/144/udo_005.jpg) (http://34er-biker.de/img/data/media/144/udo_005.jpg)
when I´m back home I start taking pictures of the B4 project
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welcome :welcome: that style always cracks me up looks like someone wheelied their bike over and just slapped new plastic on the back with out fixing the sub frame or got hit in the rear by a car but i know its not the case and who am i to judge what you like is your own opinion. Thanks for sharing your pics.
cheers
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welcome :welcome: that style always cracks me up looks like someone wheelied their bike over and just slapped new plastic on the back with out fixing the sub frame or got hit in the rear by a car but i know its not the case and who am i to judge what you like is your own opinion. Thanks for sharing your pics.
cheers
this way of bulding backs on the bikes is also known as the german style :thumb: in europe
here most of the streetfighters have this kind of a high back.
if you like some more, just tell me and i´ll send you a PM with some pics or links
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I love that style. I love anything that sticks out from the masses :thumb:
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Ive seen a bunch Jay what i do like is the guy that came up with the clear clutch covers
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(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/62/m_64eb16fe5b8c4f10a15c0584dc37a122.jpg)currently in pieces. sorry. rebirth this summer.
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currently in pieces. sorry. rebirth this summer.
Summer??? :duh: Get on it man! Our riding season is too short to wait till then. On a serious note. Shoot away with questions if you run into a jam getting it back together. :beers:
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Thats a lot of peices!!!
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short riding season? hell nah i ride year round.
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short riding season? hell nah i ride year round.
Must be nice...45 of the last 65 days have been this.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/97500af/DSC00530.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/97500af/DSC02667.jpg)
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Hi guys,
here a short view on my B4 project.
Bad photos I know...
klick to enlarge:
(http://34er-biker.de/img/data/thumbnails/144/DSC00093.JPG) (http://34er-biker.de/img/data/media/144/DSC00093.JPG)
(http://34er-biker.de/img/data/thumbnails/144/DSC00092.JPG) (http://34er-biker.de/img/data/media/144/DSC00092.JPG)
(http://34er-biker.de/img/data/thumbnails/144/DSC00091.JPG) (http://34er-biker.de/img/data/media/144/DSC00091.JPG)
I also have a complete Yoshimura exhaust, but it´s in very bad condition.
Greets from germany
Jens
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Hi, I bought a 1990 Bandit 250 for my missus, she used to have a Honda RVF400 and has complained about not having a bike since she sold it. Anyway, here's a photo. Anyone in the UK (or anywhere else I guess) got parts for these bikes? I'm having problems with the carbs and info/parts for the 250's are difficult to find. Going to post about setting the bike up, if your knowledgable with 250's I'd like to pick your brain.
Pete (used to have a B12 some years back and always a Bandit fan)
p.s. also got a 400V (93) basket case to rebuild.
The 250......
(http://madsunday.fileave.com/cathybike.jpg)
It seems this green is the original colour (in Japan) and we've grown to like it.
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Wow,
Great looking bike. I like the green too.
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Hi Guys,
Been reading through the forum the last few days.
Just thought I'd introduce myself, and my Bandit 400('s).
I got a UK model when I passed my bike test about 5 years ago now, always kept the bike sitting there, never knew why! I just didn't sell it. At that time I bought a gsxr600, zxr750's, fzr250, etc etc.. Anyway I got another Bandit400 Limited Edition (for a tidy sum of £0.00 :grin:). All it needed was a wee freshen up and it passed without needing much spent on it (new battery, clutch lever, fuel tank).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/b4le_side.jpg)
It's not pretty but it's work in progress. It's got a Mk2 tank on it, it fits but the side panels dont really lol.
Plans:
GSXR front-end
GSXR or RGV swingarm
GSXR shock
Lighten it as much as possible.
Seat Cowl.
Possible mods for the future:
GSXR600 engine or SV650 engine (will need to check size for the SV one though)
If I don't change the engine I'll probably trick out the 400 a little bit, squeeze a wee bit more out of it.
I've already changed it to race gearing (1-up, 5-down) as I prefer it, more positive shift and smoother for me at least. I'm in the process of making my own rear-sets, well, moving the pegs further up & backwards.
Here's how she sounds at the moment.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/th_b4le_rippage.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/?action=view¤t=b4le_rippage.flv)
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Hi All
Am a newbie to all this, Been search The Web for some time looking for info on B400 come cross Bandit Alley Forum, Didn't know there, Was such a bandit community out there. Spent the pass days reading various forums info & advice, Which is Superb, excellent advice, :clap: keep up the good work.
:grin: Bought, 1989 Jap grey import B400, All black in 1998, It was pretty standed at the time.
Graphics shown it to be a V model, Which later found out :yikes: to be a standed engine when I strip, The bike down in early 1999, When I decided to improve the suspension.
So to the Mods,
New inlets cam, etc, Heads inlets/Exhaust ported, etc K&N filter/rejetted, Race Can, Dyno.
Resprayed by me, Black & Orange.
rider and pillon seat, reshaped/cut & recovered in orange (not by me).
Seat hump made by me.
Hanger and air box side panels covers reshaped/cut by me.
harris Gp Clip on.
Polished fork brace.
Hel stainless brake lines.
Bridgestone bt45 sports tyres.
Bug-Eye head lights & reshaped rear lights.
Various metal work polished by me. Back on the road in early 2000.
Never did do the susension till two years age. When I fitted a rear Wilber Race shock, Now wish to upgraded the forks, Possible fit USD, Back for some infor & advice soon,
Not sure how to send pictures, send them later.
Many Thanks, :thanks: Hope is hasn't been to long !. :duh: :banghead:
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:welcome: Glad you found us, sounds like you'll fit right in here. Post up some pics as soon as you get it worked out, we'd love to see your ride. This site has provided invaluable information for me, and the folks here really know their stuff. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't find it here, no one knows! :beers:
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:thanks: Mick 77
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Welcome, that sounds Unique. :stickpoke:
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:thanks: Chris H
To all you fine people @ Bandit Alley who would like to see some pictures of my bike.
I've now uploaded pictures to photobucket, And when I learnt how to uploaded them here, I will do so.
If I can't work it out, :duh: I've have to do a post for info.
Its like when take engine apart, I normal know my way around, But if I got read a service manual, I more then likly lost. :banghead:
Since I been veiwing the other members B400 bike pictures, Not fore getting the 600/750/1200
I been bowled over by the qualily of the bikes, I not so sure about my now ! :clap: Did't know there so many of you out there.
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Well with hope I've manage to work out how to post some pictures of my B400. hopefully and successfully. :beers: Hope you all enjoy!. :yesno: OR :gagme:
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/u-turn_bucket/Bike1PT2-1.jpg)
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/u-turn_bucket/Bike4-2.jpg)
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/u-turn_bucket/Bike3-1-1-1.jpg)
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Wow Unique - that is way, way cool. Love it!
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Here's mine with two vids
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/robertworm/th_dynovideos010.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/robertworm/?action=view¤t=dynovideos010.flv)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/robertworm/th_100_1179.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/robertworm/?action=view¤t=100_1179.flv)
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Two more you might enjoy
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/robertworm/th_100_0279.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/robertworm/?action=view¤t=100_0279.flv)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/robertworm/th_save.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/albums/hh44/robertworm/?action=view¤t=save.flv)
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Unique bike, Unique! Definitely an eye catcher. :thumb:
Few updates to mine.
Polished Rims
DIY rearset stylee
Akrapovic Can (For new Hornet 600)
New Pilot Sports
New Fork Seals.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/b4le_akra_05.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/b4le_akra_06.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/b4le_akra_07.jpg)
And a wee vid for the sound:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/th_b4le_akra_stat.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/?action=view¤t=b4le_akra_stat.flv)
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:thanks: Kev6
Nice bike too, looking good :clap: I see you, have done more to your bike since I last saw it, Here on this forum as well as on the BCF Forums.
See you fitted a new END CAN and those polished rims were hard work.
Good :idea: with these rearset, Thought of doing that myself, never did, Got me thinking.
My next mod is to fit USD forks
Unique !.
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Finally got around to taking some pics, so here's mine in all its primered glory. I just love primer black, it can make anything look boss. :roll:
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q278/rideswithchrist/100_5295.jpg)
and a link to my album... in case you get bored :thumb:
http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q278/rideswithchrist/
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Might as well get some pics up eh?
She's a bit... what you might call, rough around the edges. The previous owner had sprayed/painted the whole frame, swingarm and top yoke by hand and by the looks of most of it without masking up etc. I think the fairings also started life as being red because where there are wear/scratch marks you can see the red coming through.
Still, will be a nice little project someday, but for now I'm just enjoying riding her!
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/Woodinator89/Bandit400/DSC01177.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/Woodinator89/Bandit400/DSC01178.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/Woodinator89/Bandit400/DSC01179.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/Woodinator89/Bandit400/DSC01180.jpg)
I think these were taken a day or so after riding her back from Devon to Bristol (UK) so she's a bit on the dull side.
EDIT: That one is the background is my brothers '00 Bandit 600, pretty much mint condition.
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You wanna get a race exhaust on her wudy :P i know of one that could be delivered to your door for the special price of £80
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Haha I was thinking about it, but I really like the standard exhaust. I think it looks so right on the bike.
However, I did see one with a stubby Akrapovic can that looked quite tasty [EDIT: See below].
But the main reason I can, the girl-f will start getting upset lol. I've already spent silly amounts of money on my car (still got things to do) so I think she would be more than unimpressed if I started modding the bike too. Especially with the money spent trying to get her going!
Just out of curiosity, what exhaust is it? Got any pics?
Cheers.
Just looked through the Bandit 400/250 Picture thread and no luck. Then looked all through this one and it was on that last page!! Grr. Here it is:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/Project_Sapphire/b4le_akra_06.jpg)
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Hello Guys and Girls,
I'm an original, off the showroom floor Bandit guy. In 91 I bought my first bike. It was a blue Bandit 400. My brother went in a couple of weeks later and ordered a red one for when he would come and visit me.
I put over 40,000 miles on mine over the next 4 years, including many miles in the snow. I commuted 45 miles to Rochester, NY every day.
Finally sold the blue bandit when my fourth child arrived and moved to Virginia.
My brother's bike went into storage for the next 15 or 16 years. It only had 1700 miles on it, mostly from me just trying to keep it fresh.
2009- My brother gave my son his old red Bandit. We picked it up and, thanks to these forums, I've rebuilt the carbs and the bike is back up and running well. The bike did suffer a bit over the years. Surface corrosion mostly. Nothing too bad.
We're still trying to get a copy of the lost title from NY DMV. That process is a bit trying, but it's looking good now and should be all set in a few weeks. We were able to get an original sales receipt from the dealer. lol
Here's two pictures. The first is in 1991 with both bikes. The second is a few weeks ago. Alex, my son is sitting on the red bike in both pictures.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab164/gamerbus/AlexandMitchonSuzukis.jpg)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab164/gamerbus/motorcycle03.jpg)
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Hey all,
I'm brand new to the forums and I gotta say, the wealth of information here is amazing. I wish I'd found this place a lot earlier!
My bike is a good 'ol 91 B4, black on a silver frame. A buddy of mine found it for $500 in a “lost to the dark recesses of a garage” type of condition. Needless to stay it was in need of some love. It still is, really. Every time I try to get to cosmetics it seems another mechanical issue comes up!
I don't have any pictures online yet but as soon as I do I'll edit this post and put 'em in. She isn't nearly as pretty as some of the bikes I've seen here. maybe someday she will! :motorsmile:
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RED 00 B6 Bandit...(49 Sate bike from Fla)..7900 miles, paid $1000 sight unseen in L.A. off of Craigslist...new oils, plugs, cleaned carbs, removed snorkle, 05 gsxr rear Showa shock, new rear tire, new brake fluids, new gel battery...just got insurance and M/C license....next off to DMV for tags and plate
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RED 00 B6 Bandit...(49 Sate bike from Fla)..7900 miles, paid $1000 sight unseen in L.A. off of Craigslist...new oils, plugs, cleaned carbs, removed snorkle, 05 gsxr rear Showa shock, new rear tire, new brake fluids, new gel battery...just got insurance and M/C license....next off to DMV for tags and plate
:rofl: This thread is intended for introducing your 250 and/or 400 Bandit... with a pic. :stickpoke:
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I feel horrible...Sorry to pollute the baby Bandit section..!!
:welcome: :welcome:
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That's OK, we like all bikes! (Well, most...)
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(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff205/wundershozen/001-1.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff205/wundershozen/002-2.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff205/wundershozen/Photo-0227.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff205/wundershozen/Photo-0223.jpg)
Hey guys, My name is Shaun from the upstate area of South Carolina.
I noticed the introduced your bandit so I thought I'll do just that.
I ride a 1992 Suzuki GSF400 Bandit
I bought this from a guy who used it as a trick bike, He laid it down, repaired the damage and sold it to me.
So far, I've replaced the Clutch cover from a drop that happened while teaching the girlfriend to ride.
It currently has about 26,XXX miles on it.
Mostly stock, It's got a larger sprocket.
Before this bike I rode a 81 Honda CM400,...Which was garbage.
So, I'm glad to be riding this bike.
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Hey Bandit Folk,
I've wanted a B4 since I saw one in a showroom in 1993 (I was 16 at the time) and a few weeks ago I finally got one! It's 91 GSF400 with about 12K miles on it. I paid $300 for it and it doesn't run yet. Somebody took a can of black spray paint to the entire bike and it looks like it's been through hell but that hasn't stopped me from taking on a full teardown project. I just found this site and there's so much info on here I can't wait to get started. Here's a pic of the bike and I'm going to document the whole rebuild on video so everyone can enjoy it. I know it'll take months but it'll be a fun process and I'll try to post a new video everyday on my blog. I'm sure I'll be posting a lot of questions since this is my first experience with the Bandit.
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs202.snc3/20949_293349064318_279818054318_4586414_2801563_n.jpg)
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Hi I'm new to this forum, but I think Banditmax posts on here and we share a forum in the UK (Southwest Bikers.Com)! just thiought I'd say hello and put up a pic of my 93 Reg 400 Bandit ( UK registered not import hence the single front disc), I'm currently trying to modify it to a cafe racer styled look so will post more pics as things get done...
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/badgerkdd/Project%20pics/HalloweenJudeandBike003.jpg)
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/badgerkdd/Project%20pics/HalloweenJudeandBike005-1.jpg)
And these are the single seat cover and nose fairing resprayed ready for fitting ( tank and front mudguard to be sprayed)..
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/badgerkdd/Project%20pics/SDC10750.jpg)
Got lots to do to complete the project, braided lines, undertray and tail tidy ( fabricating myself from fibreglass), clean and respray front fork legs and a really good overall clean when winter turns to spring :thumb:!
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Nice to see you 've found the site badger, lots of good info on the 400 here.
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If you can make it hope to meet you face to face on the March friendly run :motorsmile:!
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Hello.
I'm Frank from Germany.
My daughter wants that nice bike.
I bought it cheap with an ignition-problem.
Now it has new braking lines, overhauled calipers, a full forks service, new bearings, new Michelin tires, complete engine-service, polished chrome ....
....but no ignition. There ist no spark.
I try to find this problem.
Later I will post some pictures of this stock red 92 european model.
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Just got myself a real nice Bandit, running real good and SO much better after carb cleaning. Havent even synced the carbs and its running darn good thanks to advice found on this forum.
Dropped it today while videotaping it! Was getting off bike, kickstand was on, but as I got off i nudged it forward causing the kickstand to snap back and then plop. Lost the clutch lever but got some nice gold ones on the way.
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f32/Chachipower/DSC05119.jpg)
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(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7491/dsc00272n.th.jpg) (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/dsc00272n.jpg/)
Hi!my name is gas from greece and a (friend) give me this bike for free!Anyway after a lot of searching and pushing i understand why :roll:But as long as i ride it at the finish i feel my heart will explode!I dont know it s the sound... the size of this little demon so the next day i bought an airbrush and god help me!!I hope not to regret it and sorry for my eng cheers (http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3450/dsc00311qc.th.jpg) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/dsc00311qc.jpg/)
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good luck gas. Post updated photos as you go. Stripping and repainting is something I think most of us would like to do at some time.
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(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4126/dsc00409x.th.jpg) (http://img801.imageshack.us/i/dsc00409x.jpg/) Almost done! (http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6816/dsc00412c.jpg) (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/dsc00412c.jpg/)
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(http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4841/dsc0066lsr.th.jpg) (http://img375.imageshack.us/i/dsc0066lsr.jpg/)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1656/dsc0067p.th.jpg) (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/dsc0067p.jpg/)
The end.
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I am nowhere near a fan of gold, but that works out really nice. Very clean example of this fantastic bike.
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Here's mine in its current part stripped state......
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC00831.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC00835.jpg)
Here with the frame repainted, plenty of mods planned just got to sort the wiring out first and get the carbs cleaned. will post pics as it progress'
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Looks like triumph roulette green...
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It is, But not for long :trustme:
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Hi everyone!!
After reading a lot I finally decided to register, and here´s my ´91, 65.000km, single front disc version unit from Madrid (Spain). :beers:
I changed a few things, hope I can show you updated pictures soon!!
- IXIL exhaust, it sounds awesome :trustme:
- Ohlins rear suspension
- Aftermarket mirrors and turn signals
- Custom made license plate holder
- New fiberglass underseat tray, with room enough for toolkit and other stuff
- GiPro gear counter
- Fork protectors
As future proyects, a coolant temp sensor (easy) and a front end swap, with 2 brake discs and maybe inverted forks (not that easy, I´m afraid)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/casper05es/Bandit-01.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/casper05es/Bandit-03.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/casper05es/Bandit-04.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/casper05es/Bandit-05.jpg)
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:welcome: Ivandit... very clean looking machine you have there. :thumb:
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wow, that's a pretty bike
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yep...Very clean machine... almost a shame to do anything to it.
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Hey everybody,
I'm a young guy from Auckland, NZ and I'm the proud owner of a '92 Bandit 250. It's my first bike and I love it to pieces. In NZ we have graduated licenses, from learner to restricted to full. During the first two stages you can't ride a bike larger than 250ccs and most people either ride a new Ninja or Hyosung or an old beaten up ZXR, CBR, etc.
I got my Bandit in beautiful condition with only 13,000 km's on the clock and she's a beauty! Goes great, sounds much better than modern 250s, and they're just uncommon enough here to get some interested looks and people asking me about it, everyone agrees it is a great looking machine.
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8156/02102010076.jpg) (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/02102010076.jpg/)
Here she is sitting next to my brother's GSX-R 600.
PS: I'm looking at getting a secondhand B4 seat cowl (Gimbel) online, does anyone know if the 400 cowl will also fit onto the 250?
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(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/h4untdca3/magooandcar046.jpg)
hi there
i'm from invercargill in new zealand
this is my gj77a 250v that i bought as a write off with 35,000km
was all cosmetic damage tho.
a new set of bars,new front and rear pads and rear rotor
new front tire and mirrors and she's back on the road.
it has a no name aftermarket can and a trail tech vapor lcd dash.
has just cost a new new reg/rect and a set of float valves and seats and runs like a dream.
i've read about the gixxer front end and shock swap on to a b4, but does anyone know if they would fit the gj77a?
i love small high strung wee bikes and want to beef up the brakes and suspension
cheers for any help and advice
banditv
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1992 Import
vc motor
Bought 18mths ago for the missus before she passed her bike test. Originally the ideal was tidy it up and get running nice for when she passed her test. Then plans changed and it was a full on re model, my guide lines were! Must be white and kawasaki green, Must have an R6 tail, Must have different headlights OMG the list was endless :banghead:
So stripped it down, repainted the frame/swing arm/fork bottoms, fitted new seals in the forks, repaired the rev counter, fitted risers and renthal bars, chopped the rear seat frame and added new sections to get the R6 rear to fit, modified the R6 lower panels to fit, made up brackets to fit a kawasaki z750 headlight, had the R6 seats recovered in kawasaki green, fitted a zx6r rear master cylinder and a bandit 600 front, repainted the wheels and polished the rims,repainted the calipers, fitted goodridge braided brake lines, altered and fitted a custom hornet belly pan (still got to paint up the brackets) rebuilt the carbs, just the paint/graphics and a bit of fine tuning left to do :grin:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01205.jpg)
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Nice Suzusakaha Bandit GSZR-4. :clap:
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lol cheers oh the belly pan thats going on it is off a honda hornet so what does that make it? :toofunny:
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I suppose that'd be something like Suzusakahanda Bandit GSCZR-4
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Cool lol i'd need a bigger fuel tank to put that on it. Fitted the bellypan today, just need to strip it all down for painting now :thumb:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/gris002.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/gris003.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/gris004.jpg)
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/Craig806/b1.jpg)
Here is my Bandit the day I bought it this February!
I'm new to the Forum and I'm glad I found it. My bike's in the shop now for a charging issue but as soon as its back I'll post some better photos and I’m sure ill have some questions for you all!
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Sorry for the huge image... my first experience in an online forum
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Not that huge to me, I like it. Welcome!
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(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk296/Davermater/266805_10150682126735381_721445380_19302245_4534624_o1-1.jpg)
Hi there, new to the forum, this is my new pride and joy.
Shes my first "big bike" i cant wait to get her on the road! :)
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Hi, new here from UK, heres a pic of my first bike, the b400 :grin:
(http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy48/leemutz/b4002.jpg)
(http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy48/leemutz/b400.jpg)
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hey everybody had my bandit a few months now 14000miles on clocks all standard except the exhaust but i've just got an original one the put on soon!
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(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c228/takato_rikku/B4Yuri1.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c228/takato_rikku/B4Yuri2.jpg)
3 months of rebuild with my bare hands, planning on dual headlights and streetfighter/cafe hybrid perhaps... Repainted from God ugly red/white and Supertrapp can.
If anyone was wondering about the symbol on the helmet, it's from my parkour group.
Cheers!
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First post
Start of the work on mine, been sat in the garage for the last 8 years (time, money and kids)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QC4NSg9DaY
1995 GSF400VS
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8782/09042011065.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/09042011065.jpg/)
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new to this board but am rockin a 1991 b4 that a buddy picked up for 300 bucks a few years ago. a year of working on the carbs and all that good junk... she ran good. a few months ago i took over ownership and have been loving it. im always changing things on my bikes... but this is how she sits now...
(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx343/siraig/2011-08-17_20-07-36_345.jpg)
(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx343/siraig/2011-08-17_19-56-17_877.jpg)
(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx343/siraig/2011-08-17_20-07-49_307.jpg)
(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx343/siraig/2011-08-17_19-56-49_292.jpg)
i<3mybandit...too bad im parting it out due to finances :(
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WOW! There are some damn fine looking Bandits here. I just Bought my first bike, a 1991 Black Bandit 250. I has been around the block (60,000kms) and has been dropped and slid so the pipe and tank have a few scars but I got it for a decent price and I LOVE the bike. Once I replace the worn fork seals my 1st plan is to repaint it black and get a new exhaust tip. By then I will have an unrestricted license and probably upgrade to something bigger but who knows :bigok:.
I am brand new to this forum, it looks like a great site :beers:
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92 B4
19xxx miles
Manual Cam Chain Tensioner
Came with Progressive Front Springs!
DJ Kit
Currently in pieces for total rebuild
In need of:
Gsxr 400 swingarm
New style Gsxr Shock
Suburban Bars
Mono Cowl
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Hi guys,
New member here from AUS. Just picked up a GSF250 on Friday; did around 450km's over the weekend :) Loved every second of it, though the forks need seals and some oil as it seems a bit clunky and like it's dipping more than the first day I rode it..
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w137/alman88/Suzuki%20Bandit%20GSF250/photo.jpg)
Very much standard as I bought it. Don't really have plans for it other than enjoying the heck out of riding it, whilst keeping a keen eye out for a B4 for my next bike!
Cheers,
Al
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My 1991 Bandit 400 in it's current state...
(http://blalb.com/B400_Nov2011.jpg)
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This is my Bandit, bought 2 months ago.
(http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/8143/31122011061.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/864/31122011061.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
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(I think I finally got the pictures to show up)
Hey guys, I got a work-in-progress '92 B4 w/ approx. 27,000kms, bought completely stock two years ago.
Done:
Custom Paint (Satin black tank, plastics, and fender w/gloss red rims and frame)
Cafe style handlebars
Bar end mirrors
GSXR 750 rear shock
Smaller turn signals
Custom fender eliminator and undertail
Two Brothers slip-on race exhaust
Eventually getting to...
Tranny rebuild (2nd gear skips on mine)
Monster seat/rear end
Clip-ons (??)
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/1jdqs.jpg)
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/3k9ii.jpg)
Also, mactat2, what fairing/headlight is that? That's one of the best ones I've seen on a Bandit...
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Wow. Looks sharp. Where did you find that tank cover???
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Hey everyone, I am a new Bandit 400 owner. This is actually my first motorcycle, I have wanted a naked street bike for so long. I was originally searching for an old CB-1 project but I found a GSF400 Bandit instead, I had no idea they even existed. lol I think the bandits look better anyways. In my free time I work on and restore toys, although I'm used to working on and rebuilding 2 strokes, these four strokes are much more complicated but I love to learn and hope to get a lot of experience for the future. Here is my Bandit so far, when I first got it, it was disassembled, missing a complete engine and all sorts of stuff but it had a clean title. A day later I was on the road to pick up a complete parts bike with an engine and everything I was missing. In the last couple weeks I've been working on this and I love it. I haven't got it fully running yet, but I'm sure I'll get this thing zoomin down the road in no time.
Just after I got her
(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww81/liberatore20/gsf400-2.jpg)
(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww81/liberatore20/gsf400-1.jpg)
(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww81/liberatore20/gsf400-4.jpg)
(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww81/liberatore20/gsf400-3.jpg)
Thanks for looking!
Cameron
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Its been a while so i thought i'd put some pics up of the missus bandit now its finished and in regular use.... :grin:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01820.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01816.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01848.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01852.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01858.jpg)
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Looks really cool! How did you you do the seat/tail section?
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Hi Lanky, i had to cut part of the rear subframe off and weld up a new one. It wasnt too difficult to do, just need patience to make sure everything lines up before you permanently weld it all up. the lower part of the tail fairing needed shortening by a couple of inches too but that wasnt a problem.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01103.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01106.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/DSC01123.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w278/Jaancy/nearlythere.jpg)
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Awsome finished work. :congrats:
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NEW MEMBER ALERT
1991 Bandit 400
red with white wheels
im told its around 37000 miles but the odo is wrong (so i was told and it reads closer to 24k)
all stock other than the mirrors someone replaced than i have ordered replacments for and someone cut the plate hanger flush with the bottom of the plate.
there is also a custom mounting braket in the front with the factory ugly big turn signals
ill have pictures soon
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Will try and post pics of my latest project here. 1989/90? Japanese home market 400. I'm planning on rebuilding as a little back-road/track bike and have already got a GSXR600 rear shock for it. Still deciding what colours it will be, as that trellis frame just cries out for something bright (not staying with the current green!) Some kind of single seat and minimum daytime mot equipment envisaged.
Don't think it's (hoping it's not) as bad as it looks.
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Glad I couldn't get it to quite fire up... dropped oil and it's full of petrol!. Suspect petcock diaphragm, and will re-check float valve sealing too. Hopefully, as it turned over readily on starter motor, no hydraulic-lock issues...
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Finished the Street Fighter conversion on my old 91 Bandit. (http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab164/gamerbus/finalrear2.jpg) (http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab164/gamerbus/finalleft.jpg)(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab164/gamerbus/finalfront.jpg) (http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab164/gamerbus/finalcloseright.jpg)
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My 1991.. ODO says 7400 miles.. Don't believe it though, considering the condition of the rest of the bike..
Not running.. Have spark, good compression, but can't seem to get fuel? (carbs have been professionally cleaned)
Can't wait to get it on the road though!!
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half-full - very owsome and unusual project!!!
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New member introducing myself. I just picked up as a first bike a red 92 bandit 400. It has right around 20k if I remember correctly. The bike is stock except a K&N panel filter it came with and the upgrades and maintenance I have done which are 07 gsxr 600 rear shock, frame sliders, and new throttle cable. The bike seems to run great with the exception of a slight stumble when slow applying the throttle from low rpm's and a little oil in the air box. I think I need to adjust the cable to fix the stumble. This seems like a very helpful forum and look forward to much reading.
TIA!
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Hello and welcome to the forum :grin:
If you plan on giving your B4 a service soon, I suggest fitting a standard air filter. The K&N filters are renouned for causing lots of running problems, due to the increased air flow. If you fit one, ideally you need to then get it dyno tested and rejetted to suit the increased air flow. Without this work, they tend to cause lean running, pinking and poor throttle responce. :thumb:
Great to see new members.
All the best,
Bullet5.
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Hi all,
I have a 250VS in red that I bought over the Internet in February. The fork seals have been replaced & I am in the process of having the head rebuilt & the barrels lightly honed. I have replaced the pistons as it was cheaper to get a complete set of fpistons with rings, circlips & gudgeon pins from Aliexpress.com they sent via DHL & I had thm in my greasy paws in 5 days!
Hope the pics come through ok. They are from the previous owner. The bike has 27000km but the motor seems to have had a hard life & the forks needed seals. If anyone is interested, Kawasaki zx600 dust seals fit fine (ja, I have a zzr 600 e2 too). Kawasaki have been using the same seals from 1990 to 2004 so you should find some if you need them. The drive shaft spline was also worn because the front sprocket had been reversed after having excessive wear. A used transmission is in the air, as I write, from Japan. Bid JDM is useful!
Well this is my little 1/4 Bandit. I just love the sound of those 250 screamers Fromm the 90's
:thumb:
Cheers.
Pete. .
Seems my pics R too big. I will post from a PC later so I can make the pics smaller
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This is my baby!! His name is Busa!! (My sister rides a Busa and named it Bandit :shrug:)
He needs some TLC since he has been sitting for awhile.
1991 Bandit 400GSF(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=ac778c2794&view=att&th=13e66f610fcbb3c6&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=1433955988863582208-1&safe=1&zw)
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Hi Guys
This is my bike, a 91 gsf400
It's pretty much stock, I just cleaned the carbs out and put new o rings through them and it seems to be running pretty well, although I've got a carb tuning kit and colortune on the way to hopefully get it running a little better, Thanks for all the great info, it's definitely made everything a whole lot easier!
I'll keep you posted on how the tuning goes.
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Here's my 400.
(http://trus.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/current-bikes/hooligan/i-fLL8fFz/0/XL/_DSC8962-XL.jpg)
(http://trus.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/current-bikes/hooligan/i-zBCvBf9/0/XL/_DSC8560-XL.jpg)
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Theres mine 95 B4(GK75A) 33000kms, stock engine with Yoshimura exaust :motorsmile:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img585/821/pj7q.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/2928/ljyn.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img41/7790/qv5q.jpg)
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This is my first Bandit and its a 400... I have several old GSXR's, 86 750 and 1100, 91 750 I also have an FZ1 and a ZRX
but I got lucky today... I had a line on a bandit 400 was planning on paying $500 it was in nice shape but the owner had no title, hasn't ran in a few years and I looked in the tank and was like no way forget it... It was almost dark and I told her nahhhh I just don't know maybe a hundred and then I recanted and said no Im going to pass... Then she said I have no way to haul it and if its that bad will you just haul it away for me.... so I never look a gift horse in the mouth... and said sure So I got it home and did a little cleaning but I need advice on the tank???
I hooked up a jump box and all of the electrical works, and drained the oil and its nice and thick. the carbs are frozen, I'm just hoping no water has gotten it to the motor.
Thanks Craig
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ONlZjyrP624/UgxU6LDc2bI/AAAAAAAACRI/ERKgUzxRhR0/w640-h480-no/photo+%252851%2529.JPG)
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These are amazing bikes... but, you can get upside down from a cash perspective really fast because the parts are non-existant.
When they run - they're an absolute hoot! When they dont - then they're a real pain to straighten out.
You may want to "Creme" the tank (http://www.kbs-coatings.com/large-cycle-tank-sealer-kit.html) to seal it up. Once that's done - then getting the fuel system to work may be a challenge. The 400 comes from the factory very finicky - so, I would not recommend any modifications to the carbs unless you're full committed. The factory airbox and other bits are going to need to be in working order to get it to run (right). Hopefully the ignitor module is still solid. How many miles? If it's got gas and air, but no spark - then that's probably your culprit. New ones can be had from eBay for ~ $150. Let me know if its too much work and you want to part it out. I'll take the tail, seats, and tool kit without blinking.
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I thought I would change my screen name from GSXR-1100 to B4ndit so I could remember it for this site.
Thanks Craig
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This is my first bike, a Bandit 400 of course!!!!
Its a 92, french version so single 310mm front disc and standard metallic exhaust line painted in black (it's crazy how they love rust...). It was originally red (frame + bodywork) with white wheels.
Here's a picture when I got it 3 years ago:
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/dgn62v6f7p2hca7/AADqf2v6QzpXF8x_awI2zD70a?raw=1)
The body was (really badly) painted in white, exhaust silencer was a CBR600F soldered on the rusted 4/1.
Some pictures of how it is now:
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/iwbocj0ja5h7tkm/AAAm_CPDgb0g96bsuk7sY3sVa?raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/nzc25rvoq5kihkp/AADfD-2WODyeEBZCtmBW6O3La?raw=1)
List of things I did:
- painted the bodywork in dark grey, I was inspired by Ducati Monster 916 Senna, but it's little bit different: dark grey body work, light grey frame, red wheels
- put a 600/750 early 2000 rear shock, just reserviced with a progressive Hyperpro spring (unfortunately, I have no idea of the spring stiffness)
- front disc stainless line and new pads
- new oil in the fork (15W)
- got a stainless steel standard exhaust line from Ebay UK
I made more than 7000 km with it since then (more than 4500 in the last 12 months)
Since the picture, I mounted OEM chinese handlebars from Ebay and I am currently in the process of rebuilding the fork with 0.85 straight rate springs and gold valve cartridge emulators both from Racetech.
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The grey and red looks good!
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My 99 Bandit S1200 that I got for free. The bad part is that the engine threw a rod but I have a 99 Katana 750 engine to put in it.
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad338/dakotademon7/null-52.jpg)
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This is my first bike, a Bandit 400 of course!!!!
Its a 92, french version so single 310mm front disc and standard metallic exhaust line painted in black (it's crazy how they love rust...). It was originally red (frame + bodywork) with white wheels.
Here's a picture when I got it 3 years ago:
(http://ubuntuone.com/03VmhP6cJoIqYXDFLZQc7o)
The body was (really badly) painted in white, exhaust silencer was a CBR600F soldered on the rusted 4/1.
Some pictures of how it is now:
(http://ubuntuone.com/4plWdwouqFFIy8YuTi8dTm)
(http://ubuntuone.com/3XGIpuePV3M4qC4UtYgvkt)
List of things I did:
- painted the bodywork in dark grey, I was inspired by Ducati Monster 916 Senna, but it's little bit different: dark grey body work, light grey frame, red wheels
- put a 600/750 early 2000 rear shock, just reserviced with a progressive Hyperpro spring (unfortunately, I have no idea of the spring stiffness)
- front disc stainless line and new pads
- new oil in the fork (15W)
- got a stainless steel standard exhaust line from Ebay UK
I made more than 7000 km with it since then (more than 4500 in the last 12 months)
Since the picture, I mounted OEM chinese handlebars from Ebay and I am currently in the process of rebuilding the fork with 0.85 straight rate springs and gold valve cartridge emulators both from Racetech.
Love the look and colors. It's like my Blaster.
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad338/dakotademon7/27eff908.jpg)
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Don't recall if I ever introduced myself - but I'm back on the Bandit project now...
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wildwhl,
looks good! You in the USA or across the pond?
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wildwhl,
looks good! You in the USA or across the pond?
reno, nv
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Hello all, my name's Greg,
I just bought a 1993 Bandit 400. No pictures yet but I will definitely have plenty of pix and video in the future.
I chose the Bandit 400 as a project candidate for a rebuild & upgrade project. Here's how I view ownership of this bike: I really like small displacement motorcycles, my current ride is a 2005 Kawasaki EX-250. I still love the EX-250 but have felt more and more attracted to the inline-4 cylinder engined bikes for years. But I don't want a 600cc or larger engine. So the Bandit 400 is perfect.
Five years ago I did a fuel injection conversion on my EX-250. After a lot of trial and error and learning it turned out to be a complete success. I enjoyed the planning/problem solving/building process and I've also enjoyed riding it.
So, my new (to me) Bandit 400 is going to get the fuel injection treatment. I'm in the process of gathering up the necessary parts and supplies. I'll be using a Microsquirt ECU to control both fueling and ignition.
Glad to be here,
Greg
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Welcome Greg,
Enjoy your bike and the EFI conversion project!
Are you - by any chance - "EWflyer" back at the MS forum?
:welcome:
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Welcome aboard... I'm relativity new here myself but these guys have a ton of information to help clean up and tune your 400.
Craig
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Welcome Greg,
Enjoy your bike and the EFI conversion project!
Are you - by any chance - "EWflyer" back at the MS forum?
:welcome:
Yes, I am.
I was wondering if you were still working on your Bandit, haven't seen you posting over there (at least no updates on the MSruns page). How's your bike doing? Good to hear from you.
Greg
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I knew it was you. Microsquirted KAWA EX250, 737, sounds familiar... :motorsmile:
Nice to find you over here as well!
My EFIed B4 is running great so the EFI conversion project is considered finished (allthough a project never does come to an end...). From time to time I do find something to fiddle with (like: components rearrangement and fuel map tuning) but nothing really important on the actual project setup so that's why you don't see me very active at the MSRuns board.
Anyway, enjoy your little bandit. It is a great bike and really fun to ride. I would suggest that you consider running the bike on carbs -if possible :trustme: - for a while, before you switch to EFI. Just to get to know the engine behaviour and how it is supposed to run on stock carb configuration. It will be very helpful on building and tuning the fuel map later.
The conversion will be a breeze for you but feel free to contact me anytime, here or the back at the MS forum, for any questions. I'm always around.
:welcome:
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So, is the thinking that a MegaSquirt Bandit 400 would run better than one with carbs, or is it more a "science experiment"? Can the MegaSquirt provide accelerator pump functionality? Mine runs like an absolute top - hard to believe that it could run much better without a dyno to tune on. Just a curious mind here - :thanks:
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Hi wario,
Eventhough the B4 EFI conversion project started as a "science experiment" it ended up in a perfectly running bike used for pretty much any kind of use. From daily commuting to track day riding. The important thing is to define the "run better" condition. As far as I am concerned if "run better" refers to fuel economy then EFI is hard to beat. I've seen fuel consumption that with carb setup I wouldn't even dream of. If ultimate top end performance is your goal then it is better if you invested on some carb tuning kit or even better some aftermarket carb setup like KEIHIN CR or the awesome MIKUNI TMR.
For every in between situation I would say that a well executed EFI conversion project will be a really good upgrade, not cheap though...
And to answer your specific accelerator pump functionality. Yes the MS provides an "accelerator pump" functionality. It is the accelerator enrichment configuration and a really important thing to tune properly...
:beers:
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Hi wario,
Eventhough the B4 EFI conversion project started as a "science experiment" it ended up in a perfectly running bike used for pretty much any kind of use. From daily commuting to track day riding. The important thing is to define the "run better" condition. As far as I am concerned if "run better" refers to fuel economy then EFI is hard to beat. I've seen fuel consumption that with carb setup I wouldn't even dream of. If ultimate top end performance is your goal then it is better if you invested on some carb tuning kit or even better some aftermarket carb setup like KEIHIN CR or the awesome MIKUNI TMR.
For every in between situation I would say that a well executed EFI conversion project will be a really good upgrade, not cheap though...
And to answer your specific accelerator pump functionality. Yes the MS provides an "accelerator pump" functionality. It is the accelerator enrichment configuration and a really important thing to tune properly...
:beers:
Cool, I really appreciate the input - my feelings were the same. I just wanted to make sure I was not missing anything. :bigok:
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Any link where we could follow these B400 EFI conversions? That sounds like really interesting readings ;-)
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I'm planning to post links to youtube videos of my project as I work through it this winter and spring.
Probably won't have much to show for a while, like a couple of months from now because I'm just getting things organized right now.
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Any link where we could follow these B400 EFI conversions? That sounds like really interesting readings ;-)
Here is a link to the MSruns forum where I describe my project:
http://www.msruns.com/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=23094&sid=654a83ce9b7f669fe92d0fb7abf1cd7b
Have a look to the rest of the conversion projects as well. You'll find it quite interesting!
Looking forward to Greg's bike. Judging from his KAWA project, he is going to do a very nice job. And - unlike me- he does take the time to upload very interesting videos and photos of his progress.
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Thanks for the link, I'll read that with high interest!!!
Any idea of the parts cost for the whole conversion (with used parts like injectors)? That would be interesting to know.
Also, what fuel consumption are you able to achieve? I usually do 5.2L/100km which is equivalent to 45.2MPG for town, suburbs and a 2.3km twisty moutain road which is used for one of the rally of the french montain rally championship, that I take every day to go to work ;-) Best I could achieve was around 4.7L/100km so 50MPG (twisty roads only, no town).
Thanks.
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Hi there,
The total cost of such a project can vary greatly depending on many different factors. I could say however that for a fuel control only (no ignition control) utilizing the MICROSQUIRT ECU the cost could go as high as 1000EUR or even higher depending on your appetite for experimentation as well as various back and forths due to "trial and error" during project execution. That's a lot of money, taking under consideration that nowdays a well maintained B4 costs about the same. If you do however find the idea interesting and plan to go ahead, make sure that bike's engine and electric system are in a very good condition. Otherwise it will be a waste of money...
Regarding fuel consumption. I have seen mileage as low as 3.5lt/100Km while setting the fuel map for economy. But that took its toll on the top end performance and driveabilty of the bike. After a long -and very interesting- session of experimenting and trying different settings for the fuel map, I have settled for one that is adapted to my preferred riding style. I've been getting around 4.0lt/100Km on countryside riding and about 4.5lt/100Km for daily urban commuting. And that's with a fuel map that is quite a bit on the rich side.
I see that you get a very decent mileage with your current carb setup and to be honest I am not sure if it worth spending all that time and money only just to gain 0.5lt/100Km. On the other hand if you want to do something special on your bike and you are willing to deal seriously (meaning spending time and money) with the DIY EFI convertion project then I'm sure you'll find it very interesting. You will be amazed to find out how many different characters the B4 little powertrain is hiding.
Feel free to ask any questions.
:motorsmile:
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Thanks for the link, I'll read that with high interest!!!
Any idea of the parts cost for the whole conversion (with used parts like injectors)? That would be interesting to know.
Also, what fuel consumption are you able to achieve? I usually do 5.2L/100km which is equivalent to 45.2MPG for town, suburbs and a 2.3km twisty moutain road which is used for one of the rally of the french montain rally championship, that I take every day to go to work ;-) Best I could achieve was around 4.7L/100km so 50MPG (twisty roads only, no town).
Thanks.
Those are the two most common questions I've been asked about my fuel injection conversion project (the Kawasaki EX250). Tubular has already gone a long way toward answering your fuel efficiency question, at least with regard to raw numbers. The "why" behind any fuel efficiency comparison you might make of two otherwise identical GSF400s, with the already stated observation that there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference in fuel economy between a fuel injected GSF400 and a Carb GSF400, is only worth exploring if you're a real engine technology enthusiast (a gearhead). As Tubular pointed out, a fuel injection conversion is primarily a hobby interest for somebody who really enjoys tinkering and problem solving, with the added bonus of getting to actually ride your creation around afterwards.
But if you're still interested (if you're still reading at this point) I'll go a bit further... (and this is a bit basic, but) an internal combustion engine is, before all else, an air-pump. It's an air-pump of a particular size, in this case 400cc of total volume. That's not going to change when you install a fuel injection system and neither is the engine's operating envelope (the idle to redline numbers). When you begin your reasoning from that point of information you'll quickly see that if the only thing you're changing on an engine is the fuel delivery method there's not a lot of effect available to you (in other words, it's not like adding turbocharging or supercharging which changes the engine's (the pump's) volumetric efficiency).
So when you decide to change a motorcycle from carbs to fuel injection you have to realize that any improvement you might achieve in its performance, in things like fuel efficiency and cold startup and throttle response, will only be marginal gains, but they're often noticeable enough to be worth the effort.
You're fixing the weak spots that invariably exist in any carb's operational envelope: you'll be improving fuel atomization for better combustion (my system runs at 50psi), you'll be improving/smoothing intake tract airflow with a simplified "throttle body" setup, you'll be implementing a much more agile fueling table that eliminates the air/fuel ratio inefficiencies that are inherent in the mechanical switching/overlap of the carb's various fuel input curves (i.e. flat spots in acceleration) and you'll have the ability to tune the fuel/air ratio precisely by taking into account things like Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure, Throttle Position, Throttle Position Rate-of-Change, RPM, Air Temperature, Coolant Temperature, Barometric Pressure and ignition timing.
When you've got all of these things working perfectly the ride is wonderful; the engine response is instant and razor sharp. But in a "blind" side by side test ride comparison you might not be able to guess whether you're riding a really well-tuned carb bike or a fuel injected bike.
As far as the total cost is concerned, I really couldn't tell you with any accuracy. I gather parts a bit at a time: some I've bought new, some I've simply been given by friends, some I've gotten out of junk yards. Because this endeavor is just a hobby for me I don't concern myself with an exhaustive accounting of the costs. I'm sure most people are the same way with their chosen hobbys.
Anyway, it keeps me occupied and happy when I've got spare time and want to concentrate on something technical that I know I can eventually get perfect, unlike the rest of life.
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Many thanks to both of you for your answer. If we go on like this, we should probably open a dedicated topic!
I am enthousiast to any kind of upgrade I can bring to a car or a motorcycle that will teach me something. I read the GSF400 EFI conversion project topic (I'll read it again for sure many times) and I also went into the 15 minutes video on Youtube about the Kawi 250 presentation: both are freakin' amazing!!!
Here is what I figured:
- This requires basically many parts to buy; even used one like the injectors that can come from another bike or the fuel pump and regulator. The whole cost exceed the initial cost of the bike (I paid only 800 euros 3 years ago).
- I do not expect any drastic change in the riding compared to a well tuned carb version nor any dramatic reduction of the fuel efficiency
- Where I live, the temperature almost never goes under 8°C (around 46°F) so I am not too much concerned about cold starts
- This is not something that I plan in the short-term: I just sold my car to save money and my B4 is my daily driver and this will not change soon
- In the future, when I have the opportunity to get a new motorcycle (most probably a SV650S), I do everything possible to keep my B4 and restore it (like sanding/painting the frame like new and everything). Maybe I'll think about this conversion again at that time and this let me time to google until then and understand deeper all the details about it.
I do know how you can feel when you achieve something you did not know how to figure out in the 1st place. When I got the bike, I did not know so much, so I figured out one thing at a time, how to fix things and I can't deal with not understanding something. I was really happy when I was able to build a carb sync device to sync my B4!!! The EFI conversion sounds like many many steps further but I will dig into that way. Thanks again.
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bdouvill, I love the color of your bike. Did you buy it that way or get it painted. I ask that because I was looking at a similar paint job and didnt know where to find the original decals that I could have someone make for me.
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bdouvill, I love the color of your bike. Did you buy it that way or get it painted. I ask that because I was looking at a similar paint job and didnt know where to find the original decals that I could have someone make for me.
Look at page #12 of this post, you'll see how the bike was when I bought it ;-) I painted it myself with a paint aerosol spray and I ordered the stickers from a french company specialized in stickers (you can order your own ones). The one from the tank is not the original, more like the one you can find on Suzuki SV and SVS 1st gen (it's grey and the inside of the letters is open so you can see the tank color). The one at the back is just like the default Bandit stickers (the same that was found on 600s and 1200s) but with a small 400 at the bottom.
For the original tank sticker, not sure you can buy it from Suzuki and it would probably ruin you. The closest I found on the web is here:
http://www.bike-decals.com/default.tpl?action=brief&cart=12488043302962365&--eqskudatarq=1249
or of course there:
http://www.oemmotorparts.com/oem5.asp?M=Suzuki&T=GSF400&Y=(E2)%201992&L=SU4_-3415&O=FUEL%20TANK&F=SU4_-2026467&L2=SU4_-2026467
Not sure it is 100% original and it's already 14 euros each. I got mine for 3.5 each. It was enough at the time I did this.
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I recently found this '92 400. It's box stock, runs like a champ. Only 7576 mi. when I picked it up. Missing 1 bar end, very few nicks in the frame and tank, couple of scratches on the exhaust.
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I wish I found one in this condition one day to put in my garage!!!
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Wow! All I can do is sit here and drool.
With that kind of milage the bike qualifies as a "time capsule" barn find.
Nice purchase! What are your plans for this museum-quality piece of motorcycling history?
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Wow! All I can do is sit here and drool.
With that kind of milage the bike qualifies as a "time capsule" barn find.
Nice purchase! What are your plans for this museum-quality piece of motorcycling history?
My 93 only has 11000... :trustme:
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Wow! All I can do is sit here and drool.
With that kind of milage the bike qualifies as a "time capsule" barn find.
Nice purchase! What are your plans for this museum-quality piece of motorcycling history?
I need to replace the fork seals, am seriously considering braided lines for the brakes with HH pads, progressive springs in the forks with heavier oil and maybe a GSXR600/750 shock. Otherwise just plan on riding it, put 60 miles on this afternoon. Oh, and grinning during/after each ride.
Next tires are going to be 120/70 and 160/60 sportbike rubber.
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progressive springs in the forks with heavier oil
Doing those two things to an old damper rod technology fork might make them feel just a bit better, but if you want a really impressive change in the fork's performance and feel you should look into what Race Tech has to offer.
If you're handy with tools and enjoy tinkering with machinery I'd go with the Race Tech solution for the GSF400 forks. They can get you set up with better springs (correct for the weight of you + the bike), 15 weight oil, and a Race Tech modification called "Gold Valve Cartridge Emulators". The emulators are the magical item in this package, when you put them into an old damper rod fork they give the fork the ability to react to the road like a modern, high-dollar sport bike cartridge fork.
I did their modification on my Kawasaki EX250 fork and it was a huge improvement and I plan to do the same to my new (to me) 1993 Bandit 400 when I reach that point in my rebuild.
http://racetech.com/ProductSearch/2/Suzuki/GSF400%20Bandit/1991-92 (http://racetech.com/ProductSearch/2/Suzuki/GSF400%20Bandit/1991-92)
Poke around on their site, they've got a lot of good information on it (there's even a bit in there on why progressive springs aren't a good fork tuning solution).
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Next tires are going to be 120/70 and 160/60 sportbike rubber.
Well of course... it absolutely goes without saying that bigger is better.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv158/EWflyer/swollen_tip1.jpg)
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progressive springs in the forks with heavier oil
Doing those two things to an old damper rod technology fork might make them feel just a bit better, but if you want a really impressive change in the fork's performance and feel you should look into what Race Tech has to offer.
If you're handy with tools and enjoy tinkering with machinery I'd go with the Race Tech solution for the GSF400 forks. They can get you set up with better springs (correct for the weight of you + the bike), 15 weight oil, and a Race Tech modification called "Gold Valve Cartridge Emulators". The emulators are the magical item in this package, when you put them into an old damper rod fork they give the fork the ability to react to the road like a modern, high-dollar sport bike cartridge fork.
I did their modification on my Kawasaki EX250 fork and it was a huge improvement and I plan to do the same to my new (to me) 1993 Bandit 400 when I reach that point in my rebuild.
http://racetech.com/ProductSearch/2/Suzuki/GSF400%20Bandit/1991-92 (http://racetech.com/ProductSearch/2/Suzuki/GSF400%20Bandit/1991-92)
Poke around on their site, they've got a lot of good information on it (there's even a bit in there on why progressive springs aren't a good fork tuning solution).
I've actually looked at the emulator kits and am seriously considering it. Thanks for the tip.
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Next tires are going to be 120/70 and 160/60 sportbike rubber.
Well of course... it absolutely goes without saying that bigger is better.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv158/EWflyer/swollen_tip1.jpg)
But ridiculous is just ridiculous...
Another thing I'm considering is changing the thermostat to a slightly higher temp one. My friend says it made a big difference with his.
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Welcome aboard...
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Another thing I'm considering is changing the thermostat to a slightly higher temp one. My friend says it made a big difference with his.
You've made me curious with that statement.
Where did your friend get the slightly higher temp thermostat? Is it from another Suzuki motorcycle?
It sounds as if you're saying the Bandit 400's cooling system is known to have some odd characteristics or behaviors that bother people. The same is true for my Kawasaki EX250. The solution modification that somebody came up with for the EX250's cooling system did include a slightly higher temp thermostat, as you've mentioned, but that wasn't the most important part of the fix.
The really valuable and fundamental improvement to the EX250's cooling system was a small bypass line that continuously ports a small amount of the overall coolant flow volume from the thermostat housing (connecting into the system just prior to the thermostat itself) directly back into the water pump inflow line (the line that comes off the bottom of the radiator).
This constant flow of coolant makes my EX250's cooling system behave so much better. It helps to even out and reduce the thermal gradient that used to occur across the mass of metal that is the cylinder and cylinder head combination during the engine's operation and it also allows the entire engine to warm up to normal operating temperatures much more rapidly. Both of these things reduce engine wear and make it perform better.
The EX250 modification is a by-product of a modification that was designed for other Kawasaki motorcycles; the KLR650, KLX250 and the Versys. Here's a link to the inventor's website:
http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bobs_c4.htm (http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bobs_c4.htm)
There's a good bit of information on this site and it sounds like it applies to the Bandit 400 just as much as it applied to my EX250.
And in case you're not convinced that continuously bypassing a small amount of the coolant flow back to the water pump is a good idea, take a look at what Suzuki did with the SV650... In this micro-fiche diagram of the 1999 SV650 cooling system you can see they included the exact bypass that I'm describing (part number 24, labeled "Hose, connector to water pump" in the listings)
http://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/suz/50d41183f8700230d8b51087/radiator-hose (http://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/suz/50d41183f8700230d8b51087/radiator-hose)
Here's my install video of the Thermobob on my Kawasaki EX250
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LD0IpbRWcw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LD0IpbRWcw)
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CBR600 thermostat, Thermostat thread...
http://forums.banditalley.net/index.php?topic=9021.0
Another thing I'm considering is changing the thermostat to a slightly higher temp one. My friend says it made a big difference with his.
You've made me curious with that statement.
Where did your friend get the slightly higher temp thermostat? Is it from another Suzuki motorcycle?
It sounds as if you're saying the Bandit 400's cooling system is known to have some odd characteristics or behaviors that bother people. The same is true for my Kawasaki EX250. The solution modification that somebody came up with for the EX250's cooling system did include a slightly higher temp thermostat, as you've mentioned, but that wasn't the most important part of the fix.
The really valuable and fundamental improvement to the EX250's cooling system was a small bypass line that continuously ports a small amount of the overall coolant flow volume from the thermostat housing (connecting into the system just prior to the thermostat itself) directly back into the water pump inflow line (the line that comes off the bottom of the radiator).
This constant flow of coolant makes my EX250's cooling system behave so much better. It helps to even out and reduce the thermal gradient that used to occur across the mass of metal that is the cylinder and cylinder head combination during the engine's operation and it also allows the entire engine to warm up to normal operating temperatures much more rapidly. Both of these things reduce engine wear and make it perform better.
The EX250 modification is a by-product of a modification that was designed for other Kawasaki motorcycles; the KLR650, KLX250 and the Versys. Here's a link to the inventor's website:
http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bobs_c4.htm (http://shop.watt-man.com/Thermo-Bobs_c4.htm)
There's a good bit of information on this site and it sounds like it applies to the Bandit 400 just as much as it applied to my EX250.
And in case you're not convinced that continuously bypassing a small amount of the coolant flow back to the water pump is a good idea, take a look at what Suzuki did with the SV650... In this micro-fiche diagram of the 1999 SV650 cooling system you can see they included the exact bypass that I'm describing (part number 24, labeled "Hose, connector to water pump" in the listings)
http://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/suz/50d41183f8700230d8b51087/radiator-hose (http://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/suz/50d41183f8700230d8b51087/radiator-hose)
Here's my install video of the Thermobob on my Kawasaki EX250
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LD0IpbRWcw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LD0IpbRWcw)
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CBR600 thermostat, Thermostat thread...
http://forums.banditalley.net/index.php?topic=9021.0
This is what my friend was telling me about. I'm pretty sure Factory Pro is where he got the info. He had a lot of carb problems with his B4 - previous owner fiddled with the carbs so much they were nearly junk. The thermostat was the final piece to his puzzle.
Mine runs very well, the previous owner raced flat track as a semi-pro. His tuner went through the carbs before I bought it. I have noticed that it is very cold-blooded though.
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I have noticed that it is very cold-blooded though.
I can tell you from the results I got with my very cold-blooded Kawasaki EX250 that the Thermobob modification is the cure. My EX250 warms up quickly and runs right at the 190 degree mark no matter what the weather is. It has really improved the bike.
I'm working on a Bandit 400 version of the modification. If it goes as I've planned it will be an easy modification to do and pretty cheap also. I'll be looking into it later this week and I'll let you know what I find.
Greg
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Not mine, but very nice!
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Bike above:
Description:
2006 GSXR 600 front end
2006 GSXR 600 bodywork
sato racing rear sets
titanium exhuast fro a R6
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Well it seems like its bin awhile since any one postet a pic here, so i tought ill give it a go
(http://mc.webgallerier.dk/galleri/88/628/471/438938-suzuki-bandit-vm-400-gsf)
Its a 91 jap import
Vc engine "redtop" with vc on intake and exhaust
Dual front disk
Leo'vince muffler
Black paint with blue flakses, this seems like the orginal paint job
Red rim stripes
I mountet some type of underbelly
Raised the rear a little
Standart clip-on handle bars
Carbon look mirrors
Suzuki intruder rear shock
The foot rests are paintet black
Custom indicators
Custom chain guard
Removed rear fender and placed a custom made one under the seat
I think that was about it, feel free to ask anything you like
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What header and can is that?
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What? My english inst that good
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He is asking about your exhaust system. What brand are they and where did you get them?
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Oh well this one is born with the stainless exhaust, i just fittet a leo'vince muffler from a cbr
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Completely stock B400 GK75B '92 with german-specced carb caps. 20000 km, and no problem, running smoothly.
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Hello bandits! This is my machine:
(http://i.imgur.com/AYY6g5yl.jpg)
92 B 400 exhaust Dopinger
92 gsxr Fork
Galfer wave disc front brake
Nissin radial brake pump
chain guard handmade fiberglass
Wp rear shock
Greetings.
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Hello bandits! This is my machine:
(http://i.imgur.com/AYY6g5yl.jpg)
92 B 400 exhaust Dopinger
92 gsxr Fork
Galfer wave disc front brake
Nissin radial brake pump
chain guard handmade fiberglass
Wp rear shock
Greetings.
Very nice!
I like it all, except the bend in the exhaust :).
Anyway.. two questions.
1) Where did you get the passenger seatcover? (Edit: you just painted in red I see? :P)
2) What 92' Gsxr fork ? How hard was it to install?
Thanks
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Hello bandits! This is my machine:
(http://i.imgur.com/AYY6g5yl.jpg)
92 B 400 exhaust Dopinger
92 gsxr Fork
Galfer wave disc front brake
Nissin radial brake pump
chain guard handmade fiberglass
Wp rear shock
Greetings.
Very nice!
I like it all, except the bend in the exhaust :).
Anyway.. two questions.
1) Where did you get the passenger seatcover? (Edit: you just painted in red I see? :P)
2) What 92' Gsxr fork ? How hard was it to install?
Thanks
Hello,
I do not like the curve of escape ...: (
The passenger seat is covered with red leather, very slippery :)
The front axle is 92 gsxr 750. Very easy swap. The bearings and steering shaft are equal.
I have yet another Galfer wave brake disc ... $ $: (
Greetings.
(My knowledge of English is low. Google translate ...)
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Hello bandits! This is my machine:
(http://i.imgur.com/AYY6g5yl.jpg)
92 B 400 exhaust Dopinger
92 gsxr Fork
Galfer wave disc front brake
Nissin radial brake pump
chain guard handmade fiberglass
Wp rear shock
Greetings.
Very nice!
I like it all, except the bend in the exhaust :).
Anyway.. two questions.
1) Where did you get the passenger seatcover? (Edit: you just painted in red I see? :P)
2) What 92' Gsxr fork ? How hard was it to install?
Thanks
Hello,
I do not like the curve of escape ...: (
The passenger seat is covered with red leather, very slippery :)
The front axle is 92 gsxr 750. Very easy swap. The bearings and steering shaft are equal.
I have yet another Galfer wave brake disc ... $ $: (
Greetings.
(My knowledge of English is low. Google translate ...)
Thanks.
It's GSF400 wheel, right?
What did you have to change to swap gsxr 750 fork?
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Very nice. What is the bottle strapped to the passenger grab rail, just above the exhaust?
A
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Hello bandits! This is my machine:
(http://i.imgur.com/AYY6g5yl.jpg)
92 B 400 exhaust Dopinger
92 gsxr Fork
Galfer wave disc front brake
Nissin radial brake pump
chain guard handmade fiberglass
Wp rear shock
Greetings.
Very nice!
I like it all, except the bend in the exhaust :).
Anyway.. two questions.
1) Where did you get the passenger seatcover? (Edit: you just painted in red I see? :P)
2) What 92' Gsxr fork ? How hard was it to install?
Thanks
Hello,
I do not like the curve of escape ...: (
The passenger seat is covered with red leather, very slippery :)
The front axle is 92 gsxr 750. Very easy swap. The bearings and steering shaft are equal.
I have yet another Galfer wave brake disc ... $ $: (
Greetings.
(My knowledge of English is low. Google translate ...)
Thanks.
It's GSF400 wheel, right?
What did you have to change to swap gsxr 750 fork?
The front wheel is the gsxr 750: b400 17/3 "and gsxr 17/3, 5".
Forks, triple trees, wheel, brake calipers, front wing, brake discs ...: For the complete front end swap gsxr necessary
(my Galfer wave is b400, with spacers on the caliper.)
Key contact / clausor is b400.
It is necessary to modify the steering stops.
If you are interested in the swap take a look at this video I uploaded to youtube:
http://youtu.be/y6OkjPh4FSk (http://youtu.be/y6OkjPh4FSk)
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Very nice. What is the bottle strapped to the passenger grab rail, just above the exhaust?
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Thanks, it is the bottle wp rear shock ...
Greetings.
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Hi everybody!
I live in Quebec and I own a Canadian 93 400 Bandit I bought last year.
Thanks to the information found on the forum and its french cousin (400bandit.xoo.it) she now runs great again!
I'd like to go further and I am looking for a Yoshimura exhaust... very hard to find these days...
I'm also looking for some advices on the best mods available for this little bike: airbox mods, carburetor settings...
Here are a pic with her new tires (pilot powers!)
Nicolas
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Greetings, about a month ago I picked up a non running 250. After a little investigation I found the firing order was wrong and away it went. From then on its basically been a matter of putting everything back to where it belongs.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22557925/Suziki/%24_57%20%285%29%20%28Medium%29.JPG)
As you can see at some stage someone has made a custom tail section. I'm not quite sure if I'll keep it or revert back to the original one. Its fairly rough and I've been using a fair bit of bog to try to smooth it over again. So far I've spent most of the time cleaning the thing and replacing missing parts. I've also painted the headlight bucket and the gauge surrounds as the chrome was coming off.
Heres how its looking now complete with 3 year old daughter.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22557925/Suziki/Photo%2013-07-2014%203%2054%2014%20pm.jpg)
Still got a long way to go.
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Hello from Germany,
my name is Holger, I am slightly younger than 40 years and own a 1993 B4.
The bandit is almost in original condition except some smaller changes like indicators, mirrors and a Puig - windscreen, nothing special so far.
I stumbled upon this board while looking for some details about the 400, because in Germany the little Bandits are quite rare and information about the bike is even more rare.
Regards
Holger
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Hello from Germany,
my name is Holger, I am slightly younger than 40 years and own a 1993 B4.
The bandit is almost in original condition except some smaller changes like indicators, mirrors and a Puig - windscreen, nothing special so far.
I stumbled upon this board while looking for some details about the 400, because in Germany the little Bandits are quite rare and information about the bike is even more rare.
Regards
Holger
You have the "German" version with dual front disk and stainless steel exhaust, in black which I guess is pretty rare. The condition seems really good. I like it ;-)
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very nice!
A
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Thanks a lot :)
My Bandit is the "localized for Germany" - version, as far as I know all officially sold B4 here in Germany came with the following specs:
- double disc brake
- stainless steel exhaust system
- 50hp / 37kW - restriction, because of insurance reasons
In total about 3.500 pcs were sold by Suzuki Germany, the B4 was not a top seller. The -95 and onwards model was not sold in Germany, neither as the 250.
There were a few "grey" imported B4 and at least 1 B250, so the single disc - B4s are very rare here in Germany, despite of the souble disc, which sell from 600 Euros up to about 1500 Euros in road ready condition.
Mine was about 700 Euros and to get it on the road again I had to buy new tires and do the usual maintenance (spark plugs, oil, brake fluid, air filter,....).
The picture shows the "German" carb covers:
- the one on top: stock 50hp covers as delivered by Suzuki
- the one below: 48hp restricted cover for our European Driving License Class A2
Why do I leave 2 of the 50 ponys in the stable?
The A2 license allows to ride bikes with a maximum power of 48hp / 35kW (the deristricted bike must not have more than 96hp / 70kW) at a weight of min. 175kg (maximum power to weight - ratio: 0,2 kW/kg).
The A2-license has despite of these restrictions some advantages if you own a 125-license: You can upgrade a 125-license to A2 simply by passing a driving test rather than to obtain a new driving license.
After 2 years with an A2 - license you can upgrade the A2 license by passing another test to A unrestricted.
It is much cheaper than "a whole new license", my A2 was all in about 400 Euros, the unrestricted A-license would have been about 1500.
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Yes and normal gsf400 don't have any riser in the carb cover you can easily go to full power
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Hi Holger,
I have same GSF400 yet little bit older - it is model year 1991 - in red. I imported it from Germany this spring. Someone already de-restricted it in Germany as carb covers are stock without raise limiters. As far as i know for MY1993 various models were unified, camshaft was changed to be different that GSX400R one and power output was equalized to 37kW for all models so your should probably be MY1992 sold in 1993 or my informations are bad.
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2000 Suzuki Bandit 250 VS
Black
Basically a barn find project .
mostly standard
Has a lot of problems so you will be hearing from me again haha
This is my first suzuki and i love it even though my wallet does not.
:duh:
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The same post i put in Members only
Hi, my name is Gianluca, i am a 22yo guy from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
First of all, sorry for my English.
I recently bought a 1992 GSF400P which is the first "sport bike" i own after some cross bikes (last one being a XR250R 93 daily driven). The Bandit needed some care (say to have 35000km, which considering the state of the bike i think it's impossible): front forks completely scracthed and empty, rear shock was a bloody jumping table, front tyre 15 years old, rear tyre 140 size, plastics were ok, the wiring.... let's not talk about it, the engine needs a rings replacements, and totally needs a rejet (excessive amount of fuel) but i decided to rebuild the bike.
Despite knowing that the bike couldn't be used cause of the tyres and suspension issues, i was like a kid with a new toy and started to make the first minor adjustments to use it, all fluids replacement, k&n oil filter, spark plugs replaced, the first 3 days the bike improved it's ride a little bit, but still the handling was just dangerous, i didn't want to go past 60mph, and at the 4 day of using it, i braked like a normal guy, and Thor came with its hammer and hit the bike, because it felt like that, normal braking at 25/30mph, 0.1 second later i was in the floor braking with the skin of my arm.
The day after that i took the bike to a specialist in suspension, to completely rebuild and upgrade the front and rear suspension, and bought a set of Bridgestone Battlax T30R 120/70/17 & 160/60/17.
So here i am waiting for the bike to be finished since the front forks has to go through a process to determinate if they are 100% straight (if not they are taken to it's original line through hydraulic press) ant then Re-chrome the material (i think thats the word in english)
Aaaand some pics from my bike
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag270/Gianluca_Angelicola/suzuki-bandit-gsf-400-cc-muy-buenapermuto-21341-MLA20209629929_122014-F_zpskfghcgnr.jpg)
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag270/Gianluca_Angelicola/suzuki-bandit-gsf-400-cc-muy-buenapermuto-21363-MLA20209632819_122014-F_zpsxqct3cnl.jpg)
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Gianluca (tanito87),
Here's a bit of advice regarding the Bandit's carbs: The Mikuni BST carbs are notorious for worn emulsion tubes (the holes in the soft brass emulsion tubes get worn into an oval shape by the harder metal of the needles).
Your Bandit, with 35,000km on it, almost certainly has very worn emulsion tubes. You mention that the bike "needs a rejet (excessive amount of fuel)". Well, worn emulsion tubes cause excessive fueling.
The Mikuni corporation views the emulsion tubes as a "consumable" item. In other words, this is a component that regularly requires replacement as part of normal maintenance throughout the vehicle's lifespan.
We occasionally get owners here on the forum who are desperately trying to tune Bandit carbs by setting everything to "factory original specifications" and they still end up with an over-rich pig. If you want to re-set your Bandit's carbs to factory original specs you almost always have to replace the emulsion tubes.
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35000KM? That's a little over exaggerated.
Mine has 72000KM and it still runs great even at 3000KM it ran fine when I put the needles back in stock position.
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Gianluca (tanito87),
Here's a bit of advice regarding the Bandit's carbs: The Mikuni BST carbs are notorious for worn emulsion tubes (the holes in the soft brass emulsion tubes get worn into an oval shape by the harder metal of the needles).
Your Bandit, with 35,000km on it, almost certainly has very worn emulsion tubes. You mention that the bike "needs a rejet (excessive amount of fuel)". Well, worn emulsion tubes cause excessive fueling.
The Mikuni corporation views the emulsion tubes as a "consumable" item. In other words, this is a component that regularly requires replacement as part of normal maintenance throughout the vehicle's lifespan.
We occasionally get owners here on the forum who are desperately trying to tune Bandit carbs by setting everything to "factory original specifications" and they still end up with an over-rich pig. If you want to re-set your Bandit's carbs to factory original specs you almost always have to replace the emulsion tubes.
oh well, thank you very much, i will try to get those (and if can get a complete rebuild set) along with factory pro needles due to the K&N panel filter
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Here's my 1991 UK B4, 30k on the clock, fair bit of history and every mot from new, standard apart from GK73 GSXR front end the exhaust.
(http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o684/dunkmac/10923265_10152540244731269_1065963944988603657_n_zps8b15c947.jpg) (http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/dunkmac/media/10923265_10152540244731269_1065963944988603657_n_zps8b15c947.jpg.html)
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So, my B4.
Not a lot to talk about. Got it, it was rubbish, built it over a couple of years, got it running. Now need some tweaking with the carbs and she should be good to go.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/11025729_10205919630613202_4333993472805998702_o.jpg)
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Here's my '93 250ZP Limited! Complete with my very special cable-tie choke cable and electrical tape covered wing mirror mount :P
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7490/15591488273_00032a877f_b.jpg)
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I don't like fairing at all especially on older bikes, but for some reason I'm really digging that old skool caferacer fairing on the bandit.
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Here's my '93 250ZP Limited! Complete with my very special cable-tie choke cable and electrical tape covered wing mirror mount :P
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7490/15591488273_00032a877f_b.jpg)
I did not notice that before, but are the footpegs/mounting brackets original and specific to thei Ltd version?
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(http://i.imgur.com/SDC8Xk0l.jpg)
The very same B4 as I posted before, now with half the km on clock more than what she had when I bought her. I made half of kilometers of all the previous owners in 22 years together in less than two years. And yes I still like her and am not even thinking about replacing it for anything more powerful.
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Looks in great condition still :thumb:
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Recent ebay purchase...
91 GSF Bandit VC 36K Kms on the clocks, all stock as far as I'm aware..
(http://)
Issues so far...
- Rough Lumpy Idle
- Refusal to Idle below 3k RPM until fully warmed up
- Front Calipers seized
- Cam Chain Rattle
- Really Tappity Top End
My list of thing to do so far...
- Rebuild front brakes (They're getting sent of to Powerhouse for full re-furb)
- Check Valve Clearances
- Replace O-Rings and Balance Carbs
- New Spark plugs (Bike came with CRE9Ks)
- Replace Air Filter
- MacGyver something to enable easy adjustment of the throttle stop screw, so idle speed can be easily set
There is some good points
- Tank seems fairly rust free
- Cam Chain Stretch is within tolerance
- Cam Chain Tensioner is still working properly
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looks nice, black rims fit pretty well with limited color scheme. is the U shaped white line along airbox cover part of coloring or is the thin factory color film already scratched down?
FYI these carbs do have adjustment screw extender on the left side of carb rail. Your's must have missing them. It should be easilly obtainable and/or McGyverable given the fact it is one bent steel wire and one dremell-type extended screw...
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Been on here so long.. but never "introduced my bandit"...
So here goes.. :grin:
Going strong for 6 years, almost 85.000km (about 45.000 mine)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22072961/MF/2013-06-08%2014.57.21.jpg)
:motorsmile:
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looks nice, black rims fit pretty well with limited color scheme. is the U shaped white line along airbox cover part of coloring or is the thin factory color film already scratched down?
FYI these carbs do have adjustment screw extender on the left side of carb rail. Your's must have missing them. It should be easilly obtainable and/or McGyverable given the fact it is one bent steel wire and one dremell-type extended screw...
It's part of the coloring, the adjuster is missing. Was planning to weld a nut to throttle screw and use a flexible socket extender to adjust.
I did find somewhere in the States that had an OEM one for $45 but they wanted $170 for shipping!!
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Hey fast al gordo, Nice looking limited edition you have there :congrats:
It must have had an engine swap though as '91's didnt have VC motors, they were only introduced in '93 according to what I have read
Squichy - Wow, she looks in great condition! A mate of mine had that exact same one (except the exhaust, but same colors etc) during high school
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Squichy - Wow, she looks in great condition! A mate of mine had that exact same one (except the exhaust, but same colors etc) during high school
Thanks ;).
I have to admit though.. normally she's not that clean... Only wash once a year.. Those white rims are impossible to keep white for longer than 1 week :rofl:
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go buy a good supply of toothbrushes. and be happy that you have only one rotor at the front :trustme:
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Hey fast al gordo, Nice looking limited edition you have there :congrats:
It must have had an engine swap though as '91's didnt have VC motors, they were only introduced in '93 according to what I have read
Squichy - Wow, she looks in great condition! A mate of mine had that exact same one (except the exhaust, but same colors etc) during high school
Have a look here
http://www.synapse.ne.jp/s-hara/bandit/ban-hist400e.html (http://www.synapse.ne.jp/s-hara/bandit/ban-hist400e.html)
Limited edition model made in August 91.
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:duh: Sorry, I am wrong, I need to read better :thanks:
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Hi, I bought a Bandit GSF 400 for my girlfriend a while ago. It's a red European one in really good state (22500km), it looks new! Only the bike is not running atm.
(http://content.screencast.com/users/detailed/folders/Jing/media/542ca1af-8fdc-4785-8022-97ede61177a7/2015-12-03_1727.png)
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Hi, I bought a Bandit GSF 400 for my girlfriend a while ago. It's a red European one in really good state (22500km), it looks new! Only the bike is not running atm.
Very nice! :trustme:
Nice bike as well!
Ps.
Picture really looks like the Netherlands..
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Yes I am very happy :)
Yes it is the Netherlands!
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Yes I am very happy :)
Yes it is the Netherlands!
Haha, I knew it!
Next guess... Zwolle ?
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Sorry no its Groningen! :motorsmile:
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Hi, I bought a Bandit GSF 400 for my girlfriend a while ago. It's a red European one in really good state (22500km), it looks new! Only the bike is not running atm.
Wow, that's a very clean B4. How can it look that nice and not run? We will be interested to hear what you find out about its mechanical condition.
Also, very pretty girlfriend. Lucky guy.
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Sorry no its Groningen! :motorsmile:
Ah, fair enough... (daar heb ik ook gestudeerd, dus tja :bandit:)
Not often do you see another dutch b400 on here before the dutch forum!
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How on Earth can you still find some B400 in that condition?
I'm jealous ;-)
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How on Earth can you still find some B400 in that condition?
I'm jealous ;-)
I was also very suprised by the condition!! Thats the reason I bought it instantly even though it wasnt running
Ah, fair enough... (daar heb ik ook gestudeerd, dus tja :bandit:)
Not often do you see another dutch b400 on here before the dutch forum!
I google more and English so you get more results, but I will sign up for the Dutch forum as well. Groningen is a nice city :)
Wow, that's a very clean B4. How can it look that nice and not run? We will be interested to hear what you find out about its mechanical condition.
Also, very pretty girlfriend. Lucky guy.
I feel very lucky, thanks!! I just made a post about getting the bike fixed and what I tried so far. http://forums.banditalley.net/index.php?topic=13974.0
Also the fact that it doesn't run gave me a good deal on it.
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Wow! That is in great condition! :congrats:
Good luck with the repairs :motorsmile:
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Ah, finally found the hello thread!
I've owned a '99 600 (had it a month before it was written off after being rear-ended by a cage), an '09 650SA (had it for eight days before it was stolen), an '08 650 (had it one year and one day before it was written off when I was batted across a motorway by a cage) and now own a '96 400, affectionately called 'the wreck'.
(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s475/GSFB4/The%20Wreck_zpsltwveqko.jpg)
Yeah, she's a little poorly at the moment, but I'm getting there. If I only had this forum to go by I might start thinking this is the natural state for a Bandit 400. It's almost as if they're attracted to owners who have no clue how to look after them as babies.
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Wow, you have had some bad luck in the past!
I think the problem is that we purchase Bandits from people that do not know how to look after them! We then want to make them pretty again.
Goodluck with your project !
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Introduced myself in general not 400 specific.. however 1992 gsf400 ~13k miles bought for $1200 usd , have goodridge ss brake lines, sbs sinstered front pad, ebc
semi sinstered rear pad, yss shock w/rebound and dampening, race tech springs , race tech cartriage* emulators, yosh cyclone exhaust with lone star canister, k&n drop in filter, new steering head and front wheel bearings, rejetted ( bought factory pro 1.0 kit however shop did custom jets (drilled slides etc)), dyno tuned just over 51 hps at 10k-13k rpm, waiting for cash to finish it .. swingarm bearing/bushings, rear wheel bearings , chain and both sprockets (gonna go up 1 in front and down 1 or 2 or 3 in rear (almost 8k rpm at 70 mph is too much) and michlien* road pilots, silicon coolant hoses, new clamps, fuel lines and cables, & maybe a steering dampener hopefully this summer, oh yea have superbike bars and expensive heavy bar ends ( they help more than the stock ones did really noticable) will try to post pics later, have a stock exhaust that i'd give away if you can come pick it up ( some rust not too bad, #'s 2 &3 dented a bit on the bottom)
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My Bandit400 is a 1992, with 20,000 miles on the clock. It looks and runs more like it has 2,000. It is my 49th motorcycle, and it is one of the better ones I'vd had. It sounds fantastic and seems to encourage bad behavior in me. :grin:
Here is a link to a video of it on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjW9jKLho
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That's a good looking take on the Bandit. The naked, trellis framed nature of the B4 lends itself to this. Really like your version.
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.04 Over Pistons, GSXR 400 Cams, 33mm FCR Carbs, '95 GSXR 750 Forks, '95 GSXR 1100 Swing Arm, '95 GSXR 750 wheels, Fox racing shock, ...finally gets some attention!