I did do the bleeding with the cap and bladder off... just pumped slow..once you loosten the bleed screw it is pretty much gravity thats doing most of the work....but I did notice that after a full pull of the break lever that it sucked a little air back in the bleed screw. So I just tightened it WHILE I was pulling the breal lever...so I didnt get any air back in the caliper piston. One thing to keep in mind is that even though this is DOT 4 fluid...It still will eat paint, So if you have any spills and it gets on you paint...anywhere, after a day or so it will bubble the paint. So do a thurough cleaning or just wash your bike when your all done.