Chain and sprockets question?

[machu]

I have been getting alot of complaints from my fellow riders that my chain is unbelievably loud when they are driving along side me,all i hear is the scorpion shorty buzzing.
Anyways,i did notice that my chain seems to be loose and i have adjusted it once since i owned the bike.I purchased the bike with 16k kms and it now has 33k kms.
Now,i unbolted the front sprocket cover and noticed that i have a 14T front sprocket and a 44T rear sprocket,and the chain i have no idea what it is,lol.
To me the sprockets look ok?,but i do keep flipping the master link circlips off quite regularly.
So,what is a quit and painless way to adjust the chain
What am i looking for to diagnose a bad chain?
i'm a little lost ,it has been making noise the whole time i have owned it!

[JRK5892]

what kind of chain is it? if it is a non o ring chain they are noisy and need lubed ALOT, if your chain is not propperly adjusted it will slap and make noise... sounds like you have a reg chain that needs lube and adjusted

[machu]

I'm not sure how to tell,which type of chain it is?,it has gold plates and on the plates it say 530 with a 0L,but the L looks crooked coming out of the 0.
it has 112 links.Also i have been using the dupont teflon spray religiously after every ride????

[canyonbreeze]

If it's an O-ring or X-ring chain you should be able to see rubber grommets on each side between the plates and the links.  Otherwise it will be metal to metal.

[txbanditrydr]

Have you inspected the countershaft sprocket for any hooking??  That will make a ton of noise.

If you're "flipping master link clips" you're either installing them backwards, need to pinch them a little tighter, add a dab of silicone adhesive on it - or a combination of all three.

I adjust the chain on the centerstand (contrary to the manual) and set the chain at the loosest end of specification - when lifting the chain from underneath it barely touches the chain guide.  The chain will be tighter off the centerstand due to the geometry of the swing arm and this puts it right in the middle of spec.

Bad chains are identified by missing o-rings (on an o-ring chain  ), a chain that gets tight and loose as you spin the wheel while on the centerstand, links that are frozen or retain a bend after passing around the countershaft sprocket, and the appearance of red dust which is really rust.  Any combination is pretty much a deal breaker.

I've had poor success with the DuPont Teflon crap (and judging from other boards I'm the only one) so you might try some gear oil on that chain and see if things get quieter.  I have a chain oiler (Loob-man) that I run a mixture of ATF & WD40 thru - first two chains went 47,000 miles each... approaching 30,000 on the present one. 

Bandits are noisy... tell your buds to lead, follow or get the heck away from the side and your problem is solved.     

Good luck - keep us posted on what you find.

[machu]

Thanks for the response,the front sprocket is starting to have the appearance of hooking.
I cleaned the chain,left it as is, poured some chaincase oil on a rag a cupped the chained coating it with the oil.
This made a big difference in the noise alone.
I could never understand how the teflon would work? ,when its dry? and how long could it possibly last when its steel on steel?,this makes no sense to me,but i  got cought up in the hype online.

[Have Blue]

Thanks for the response,the front sprocket is starting to have the appearance of hooking.
I cleaned the chain,left it as is, poured some chaincase oil on a rag a cupped the chained coating it with the oil.
This made a big difference in the noise alone.
I could never understand how the teflon would work? ,when its dry? and how long could it possibly last when its steel on steel?,this makes no sense to me,but i  got cought up in the hype online.

If the sprockets are showing hooking, then the chain and sprockets are worn out and everything should be replaced.  

The teflon is a dry rubber lubricant and a corrosion block.  There is no way to lube an "O" ring chain since the parts you would want to lube are the pins which are sealed by "O" rings preventing you from getting any lubricant in there.  The teflon lubricates the rubber "O" rings keeping them pliable and able to retain the grease on the pins, and it keeps the rollers and side plates from rusting.  Once the engine tensions the rollers, pulling them into the sprockets, the force keeps the rollers from turning.  They do not turn relative to the sprockets.  It is the pins that rotate, so if you have an "O" ring chain, a minimal rust preventative film on the rollers is all that is needed.

Earl

[canyonbreeze]

The teflon material is mixed with a wax base.  This is suspended in a solvent for spraying.  When dissolved it's able to penetrate fairly well.  The solvent part quickly evaporates and the teflon is held in place by the waxy base.  As said above mainly for anti-corrosion and keeping the o-rings in good condition. 

[deanozx10r]

but i do keep flipping the master link circlips off quite regularly.

When your ordering your new chain and sprockets get your self the rivet link for that chain. Its pretty easy to install and never again will you have to worry about the clip coming off!!