Author Topic: bad handeling (Read 5075 times)

philm · « **on:** April 24, 2005, 03:32:29 PM »

i bought a 600n bandit a few months back and lets just say that the handeling is scarey from the back it slips badly even at slow speeds

on the front is a bridgestone battlax and the rear is a dunlop k505 the wheels are alined perfectly and the swing arm bushes are fine .can anyone tell me why the back wheel wants to beat the front
all the time regards phil m
ps the tyre presure are ok

snofrog · « **Reply #1 on:** April 24, 2005, 05:57:50 PM »

if that 505 is the one i`m thinking of its compound is equivelant to that of Fred Flintstones car .any one else want to chime in on this ???

Red01 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 24, 2005, 07:28:34 PM »

You've got a couple of things going on here that are contributing to your problem.

1) It is not usually a good idea to mix brands unless you know the profiles are compatible.
(For that matter, great care needs to be exercised when mixing styles/series of tire that are same brand for the same reason - profile compatibility.)

2) I don't know if the K505 is a Flintstone compound, though it wouldn't surprise me. I do know the K505 is a bias ply tire. While you didn't say which Battlax you have up front, AFAIK all Battlax tires are radials. NEVER mix bias and radials on a bike.
Never, NEVER, NEVER!!!![/b][/u]
Your bike was designed to run radials. Don't put bias ply tires on it, even in a matched set.

You need to get rid of that K505 ASAP!
Before you hurt yourself![/size]

jfudo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2005, 12:18:23 PM »

Yikes. Lose the tire. Find the retard (ignore this comment if you are friends with the guy that did it) who put this tire on and tell him he is going to kill someone with his complete lack of tire knowledge.

Order yourself the rear that matches your front battleax. You will be amazed at the difference.

tacoman · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2005, 01:29:09 PM »

Check your suspension as well. Poor damping can make for funky handling. Bounce the bike and make sure the suspension compresses and rebounds smoothly. When changing that scary front tire you might want to change the front fork fluid.

B12Teuton · « **Reply #5 on:** April 25, 2005, 03:09:12 PM »

Quote from: "tacoman"

When changing that scary front tire you might want to change the front fork fluid.

I thought it was the rear tire??

But you bring up a good point. If you have no fork oil (blow fork seal) or something along those lines, that could srew up the handling big time.

tacoman · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2005, 01:33:54 PM »

whoops, I guess we are talking about the rear. I was reading an article last night about putting the wrong type of tire on a bike (putting a bias ply on a bike designed for radials and vice-versa). I didn't realize how dangerous it is. It comes down to sidewall construction and flex. A bike is designed for a certain type of tire and and putting on the other messes things up bad.

B6Matt · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2005, 12:19:34 AM »

Sounds like that rear tire's due for a nice long smoking burnout before retirement.

philm · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2005, 03:18:06 PM »

for all the info men it turns out i have to change both tyres
the front is a battlae bt 50 and the new one don't go with it . i don't no if i should go for the bt45 s or bt10 front bt20 rear or bt 20 front and back or a differant make

B12Teuton · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2005, 10:34:03 AM »

Metzeler Z6

tacoman · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2005, 01:51:44 PM »

Not to get into a tire comparo battle, but if B-stones are what you are going to get, I'd go with the 010 front and 020 rear. I have an 010 on the rear of my B6 and its developed a nice flat spot in the middle after only a few thousand miles. Its a soft tire and is meant for turning, not long miles of straight hiway.

Red01 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2005, 04:41:26 PM »

The BT010/020 combo is pretty good - perhaps not as sweet as the Z6 (I haven't tried them), but cheaper. I ran the 010/020 combo and was happy with it. For most riders, this combo will have both tires wearing out about the same time. Michelin Pilot Roads (what I'm running now) and Avon Azarros are also setups than many folks like.

philm · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2005, 03:38:12 PM »

after a lot of tought and advice :blahblah: i opted for a pair of z6

got them fitted and i have run them in and what a differance
even at high speeds in a straight line and the shop that fitted them checked the suspesion
and bushes and given the bike

and i am now a happy

to everyone who helped on this forum