I guess I should qualify my obvious anger over this subject. My brother in law "George" who is 15 years older them me, a great personality guy and devoted to a fault to my sister the BOSS. Decided that 1 month before he retired (year ago) he would buy a motorcycle from a friend at work an 02 Kaw 650 classic cruiser in very good condition. He never rode a motorcycle of any kind but also never likes to ask advice on anything he feels he can do alone never called me or his "motorcycle riding co-workers" for any advice on how, when, or where to ride. I found out from my frantic mother and sister that he for the first time was putting his foot down and determined to fulfill his teenage dream of riding a motorcycle. My mother who lives with my sister pleaded with him to talk to me because I had been riding and racing dirt bikes since I was 12 which also translated into allot of street experience. But George as usual, feeling he is the male matriarch of the family, will only give advice but never take it. George was so determined he could self teach himself to ride he decided he would start commuting 35 miles each way to work with only a permit and no insurance after 2 trips around the block and a visit to the DMV, riding rush hour traffic on the busiest freeway on the planet I5. All my recommendations i.e "George wait until you take a MSF course, you need to start slow with a buddy rider on weekends, You need some safe track time before hitting the fast busy freeway alone, you need protective gear not garden gloves, George if you do it this way its a certainty that you will crash soon". All the more determined he started commuting to the protest of his wife, mother-in law, even biker friends at work. He lasted 4 commutes riding the transition lane of the freeway (most dangerous) and got struck by a girl in a car trying to make her exit lane by quickly cutting from the 6 lane (safest lane) to the exit, hitting George on the way on the left rear corner throwing him and the bike to the ground at 60 MPH. In the hospital with all of his ribs broken, a major contusion to the left side of his body an blood clots in his leg he managed to give my daughter some advice who he like a lot. "I know your dad is teaching you how to ride, but if you don't want to end up like me don't do it, its not worth it, its just a death wish." I bit my lip until he recovered and in front of my daughter I told him the accident was his own fault and he had basically ruined a dream he had and to please not ruin it for others to compensate for his own self denial. Till this day he insists that experiences and judgment had nothing to do with his crash, that it's just too dangerous for anyone and should be avoided at all cost. So needless to say I'm pissed that he ruined his dream and trying to ruin it for my kids every time they visit who so far have been having a ball learning to ride off road in the desert but are a bit fearful of his death wish warnings.