Video--Lane Splitting in Japan

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Agreed.  In the times I was over there, nicest drivers I ever met.

I've only had one...make that two dickheads pull that stunt.

The first one got a kevlar encased glove in the face and after the doc's pulled his nose back in place, I'm sure some spiffy dental work.  I probably have the fastest two finger front brakes on the planet and refuse to allow some squid in a cage to mess with my day.
The 2nd one, some hosehead from Ohio, driving a campervan conversion.  He thought he was cute until I peeled off behind him and the CHP that was on my tailpipe pulled him out of the van at gun point.  Not only was he charged with reckless driving, he was also charged with "road rage" and in CA, that carries a mandatory jail term.

HA HA! DUDE! Who are you trying to fool???
I know who you are! ....(personal attack removed - mod)... You were never in Japan! ....(personal attack removed - mod).... You crack me up!      

Ha! Those werent personal attacks! All I said was that "Ranger" isn't the tuff-guy know-it-all he pretends he is, that's all!
If he really broke some guys nose with his "kevlar encased glove", how does he know what the doctor did later? It's just a made-up story, like most everything else he says!
How come he spends so much time on here being nasty to other people?
Whatever!  If you guys want him and his bad attitude around here it's your problem!

[Have Blue]

Ha! Those werent personal attacks! All I said was that "Ranger" isn't the tuff-guy know-it-all he pretends he is, that's all!
If he really broke some guys nose with his "kevlar encased glove", how does he know what the doctor did later? It's just a made-up story, like most everything else he says!
How come he spends so much time on here being nasty to other people?
Whatever!  If you guys want him and his bad attitude around here it's your problem!

I'm in and out here a lot, and havent read all the posts on the board, so Ranger may or may not be "whatever".
It doesnt matter.  You can only be offended if you decide you want to be.  I just pass over the superficial stuff.
BTW  I lived in Yokohama for three years.

Blue

[ZenMan]

How come he spends so much time on here being nasty to other people?
Whatever!  If you guys want him and his bad attitude around here it's your problem!

Speaking as one of the "other people" Ranger has been nasty to, I've learned to ignore him anymore.

But browsing the different topics here it's hard to avoid him, his posts are everywhere.

It's amusing to be the object of someone's infatuation. For over a month now Ranger has been making snide references and insulting remarks towards me in his posts and even in his signature line. Of course he will deny this, and accuse me of being "overly-sensitive", but that would be untrue. He knows it. One only has to peruse his post history to see.

I can only wonder at the mentality of such obsessive behavior. That's a lot of time and energy he must spend thinking of me and new ways to take "pokes" at me. I suppose it's something better left for a therapist or psychologist to explain, but it seems like a personality disorder of some type to me.

Anyway. If Ranger is not the person he pretends to be, it wouldn't suprise me in the least.

As to the topic at hand, I've done my share of lane-splitting, and there's a place for it in certain situations. But to indulge in this practice all the time is probably unwise. Just doing it to "stick it in the face" of car drivers is rude and gives us all a bad name. But if it's legal and done with caution then what's the problem?  

[Red01]

HA HA! DUDE! Who are you trying to fool???
I know who you are! ....(personal attack removed - mod)... You were never in Japan! ....(personal attack removed - mod).... You crack me up!      

Last time I checked, there weren't any CHP's pulling people over and charging them with violating CA's road rage law.  

[Red01]

As to the topic at hand, I've done mt share of lane-splitting, and there's a place for it in certain situations. But to indulge in this practice all the time is probably unwise.

Having lived in Japan, Europe and lived & rode in California, I see no problems lane splitting in its proper context - clogged, slow moving or stopped cage traffic. Especially when it is an expected norm. Problems can arise if the drivers aren't used to it - like the 49 other states, or drivers from those states put into a lane splitting tolerated location, or some bozo splitting legal speed limit moving traffic at extra-legal speeds.

Just doing it to "stick it in the face" of car drivers is rude and give us all a bad name. But if it's legal and done with caution then what's the problem?  

EXACTLY!

[Red01]

Agreed.  In the times I was over there, nicest drivers I ever met.

I've only had one...make that two dickheads pull that stunt.

The first one got a kevlar encased glove in the face and after the doc's pulled his nose back in place, I'm sure some spiffy dental work.  I probably have the fastest two finger front brakes on the planet and refuse to allow some squid in a cage to mess with my day.
The 2nd one, some hosehead from Ohio, driving a campervan conversion.  He thought he was cute until I peeled off behind him and the CHP that was on my tailpipe pulled him out of the van at gun point.  Not only was he charged with reckless driving, he was also charged with "road rage" and in CA, that carries a mandatory jail term.

HA HA! DUDE! Who are you trying to fool???
I know who you are! ....(personal attack removed - mod)... You were never in Japan! ....(personal attack removed - mod).... You crack me up!      

Ha! Those werent personal attacks! All I said was that "Ranger" isn't the tuff-guy know-it-all he pretends he is, that's all!
If he really broke some guys nose with his "kevlar encased glove", how does he know what the doctor did later? It's just a made-up story, like most everything else he says!
How come he spends so much time on here being nasty to other people?
Whatever!  If you guys want him and his bad attitude around here it's your problem!

 
1. You know for a fact he's never been to Japan?
2. So what if the story is true, half-true or a total fabrication. What difference does it make to any of us here?
3. I see absolutely NOTHING in his post you quoted that is a sign of meanness or nastiness toward anyone here - unless maybe you're the driver from Ohio or the one who tasted kevlar.

and last but not least... oftentimes people will post something that's meant to be funny or a little sophmoric, like many will do among their "real world" friends. Sometimes these don't come off right since there's no voice tone inflection. I suggest if you can't clear things up between parties, these parties need to ignore each others' posts rather than contiually drag this BS up time after time after time.

[Red01]

Speaking as one of the "other people" Ranger has been nasty to, I've learned to ignore him anymore.

But browsing the different topics here it's hard to avoid him, his posts are everywhere.

It's amusing to be the object of someone's infatuation. For over a month now Ranger has been making snide references and insulting remarks towards me in his posts and even in his signature line. Of course he will deny this, and accuse me of being "overly-sensitive", but that would be untrue. He knows it. One only has to peruse his post history to see.

I can only wonder at the mentality of such obsessive behavior. That's a lot of time and energy he must spend thinking of me and new ways to take "pokes" at me. I suppose it's something better left for a therapist or psychologist to explain, but it seems like a personality disorder of some type to me.

Anyway. if Ranger is not the person he pretends to be, it wouldn't suprise me in the least.

      ENOUGH ALREADY!    

[ZenMan]

Just telling it like it is. Look for yourself.  

[Red01]

That was then, this is now.
Can't we just leave that all behind and move forward and quit diggin up the past like an old nag?
   

[ZenMan]

That was then, this is now.
Can't we just leave that all behind and move forward and quit diggin up the past like an old nag?

Sorry, but this is now. Look at Ranger's sig line. Who do you think it's directed towards?

"If I wanted an opinion, I'd ask somebody who actually owned a Bandit".

He knows I'm still waiting for my bike.

This has been going on for a month now, it's ridiculous. I've never seen such obsessive behavior.

This is the first time I've addressed it in weeks. Now it's my bad?

What am I supposed to do, just let it go on forever without calling him on it?

All he has to do is drop it already and it's over.

Excuse me for defending myself and being an "old nag"!

[Ranger]

[Red01]

Paul I was there on the side of I-805, you weren't.  The CHP is actively arresting motorists down here and charging them with roadrage when it occurs and they see it or there is sufficient evidence to prove it.  I can point out several cases that get tried on a weekly basis.  I had to appear in court as a witness for the state when that clown got arrested.

I'm not calling you a liar. I just said what difference does it make if the story is true or made up.

Ah, Japan.  Paul, you remember when FedEx bought out the Flying Tigers air routes?  Remember all those 747 200's sitting off the runway or the 727 100's that were no longer air worthy?  You should be able to look up the info and verify.
I was one of the ramp managers (working out of Boeing Field) in charge of converting those stations over to US operations and spent many months over there...And other locations as well.

I remember the FedEx buyout, but I was in Japan a lot earlier than that... I flew from San Francisco to Yokohama in a PanAm Boeing 720 and from Yokohama to Nagasaki in a Flying Tigers Douglas DC-3...  
Even had some brand new Tokyo Olympics souvenir shirts back then... so you can look that up to see when I was there.  

[ZenMan]

Note to Mr. Complaint Department, dba squeekywheel: The vendor you so viciously maligned and cross posted on other sites was gracious enough to publicly apologize for any misunderstanding you may have incurred during your brief phone conversation.  

So much for your manners and motives.

WHAT? "Viciously maligned"? Where the hell do you get off twisting what I said around like that?

I had a phone conversation with the owner of a business where he was rude and interruptive. I CALLED TO INQUIRE ABOUT BUYING A SLIP-ON, but never got the chance. You keep accusing me of not buying his product. I TRIED TO.

Anybody can go see my post in "Product Reviews". It's titled "Negative Holeshot Experience". There is NO "malicious maligning", only a description of the phone conversation and a critique on his manners.

BESIDES, WHAT'S IT TO YA??? Ever since that complaint you've been dogging me, spreading around your snide comments, stupid innuendos and smarmy quips. WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH YOU? Why have you appointed yourself "Official ZenMan Harrasser"?

GET OVER IT AND LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE!!!

What I find most interesting is anyone that doesn't even own a Bandit would come over here, talking shit and attempting to tell others (including the moderators) they know better or their feelings got hurt and they want something done about those big bad internet bully's.

There's an old saying "If you're tired of being annoyed, try not to be too annoying"

BULLCRAP! I have not ONCE ever "talked shit" or tried to tell anybody I "know better", unless it was defense against you or CWO's attacks on me or my new bike. I've asked questions and shared what I do know, THAT'S WHAT FORUMS ARE FOR.

Between you and CWO, you've said all you could think of to actually CRITICIZE AND DOWNGRADE THE '07 BANDIT 1250 SIMPLY BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO BE BUYING ONE, pretty damn childish and outrageous!

As far as "not owning one", you KNOW I have a cash deposit down and I'm waiting for my bike to come in. WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM?

ALL THIS CRAP JUST BECAUSE OF A POST I MADE ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE OVER A MONTH AGO! What kind of sick, obsessive mentality would continue to harrass and malign someone else after all this time? Especially since I'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO YOU PERSONALLY!?!?

All you have to do is LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE. Keep me out of your posts, sig line, or whatever other snide way you can think of to take your stupid pokes at me. THINK YOU CAN DO THAT???

[ZenMan]

Ranger, ALL THIS CRAP BECAUSE OF THIS:

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Negative Holeshot Experience    

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"I was on the phone last night with Dale Walker of Holeshot Performance and I have to say it wasn't a very pleasant experience. He was very rude, arrogant, and extremely interruptive. Every time I started to ask something he would drown me out.

I realize that everyone has their "bad hair days", but I also believe in polite, helpful service, especially when dealing with a new customer such as myself.

I had called him to ask what he knew about the new '07 1250 Bandit. I was interested in purchasing one of his Comp 2 slip-ons for experimenting with my new bike when it arrives next month.

He argued with me that I wouldn't be able to install it, even though he didn't know what the new pipe dameter was. I said I could make my own elbow pipe to adapt it, and he got very sarcastic and told me "yeah, right, good luck wth that, buddy".

He also told me that my Suzuki dealer was "full of crap" and that there was no way that I could receive my new Bandit before he could get one. My dealer happens to be a very nice older couple I have dealt with over several excellent purchases, and they had ordered this bike months ago and therefore are at the top of the waiting list. But Mr. Walker insisted that they were "lying to me" and that he "would get one before I or anybody else would". There was no way Suzuki was going to send a new model to "some lousy little dealership" before sending him one.

By the way, I'm in my 50's and I'm not used to being talked to in such a disrespectful manner and tone.

I have no idea of the performance or quality of Holeshot Performance Products, but I certainly will never find out now. Customer service is at the top of my list when dealing with companies, and Dale Walker failed miserably in that department."
 
AFTER ALL THIS TIME YOUR STILL FLIPPING ME SH*T OVER THAT??? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU???

[txbanditrydr]

[Mod Hat On] Nearly the entire fourth page of this thread has nothing to do with "Lane-splitting".  I am respectfully asking all participants to stay on-topic with that regard.

The personal issues being gutted and splayed all over this forum are tiresome and unnecessary - regardless of who you think is at fault.  Take it to the P/Ms or to imbetterthanyou.com but leave the attacks and other crap posts out of here (or other B/A forum as well).

Some members may find this stuff amusing but rest assured there are many who don't.  Changes will be made if necessary. [/Hat Off]

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.