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Offline devilears

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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2006, 11:22:26 AM »
So I checked my oil again to day to see if this could be the problem. I saw that there was a bit too much and drained some of it. To my srprise the oil was very thin, much thinner than I expected and smelled like petrol. Is this normal? I don't think so. What is the main cause of fuel in the engine mixing with oil? Maybe if I can figure this out, correct it and put in some new oil my problems will go away. I really hope this is my problem.

Can anyone please give me suggestions as to what might be causing the petrol in my oil?

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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2006, 12:20:55 PM »
leaking fuel tap, carb o-rings or worn valves

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2006, 06:59:06 PM »
Quote from: devilears
So I checked my oil again to day to see if this could be the problem. I saw that there was a bit too much and drained some of it. To my srprise the oil was very thin, much thinner than I expected and smelled like petrol. Is this normal? I don't think so. What is the main cause of fuel in the engine mixing with oil? Maybe if I can figure this out, correct it and put in some new oil my problems will go away. I really hope this is my problem.

Can anyone please give me suggestions as to what might be causing the petrol in my oil?

Thanks


Can't give you any more pointers than GK75 has done already, but you want to keep a careful eye on it. I blew the engine on my old Honda 250 because the fuel tap was knackered and petrol got into the oil and thinned it down.

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2007, 05:35:50 PM »
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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2008, 06:56:52 AM »
brilliant bike, wonderful

Jap import, 1998 400cc V-Tec

working on some carbing problems,

i'm after what's gonna give me best results, say i want to get the bandit running with as fluent a exhaust system as possible (what's gonna be best wanting to be able to use weekdays as well as weekend rides), mod the gear switch to derestrict or PREFERABLY get derestriction box, (what would i gain from polishing the ports), the valves are meant to be set at 0.10 -0.20 mm my question should it be in the middle of these two measurements or should it be closer to 0.10 or 0.20?

the carbs, what's gonna be best jet kit wanting to be able to use weekdays as well as weekend rides, what's best way to ensure i have carb fueling best as possible ?

where do i get best air filter to suit rest of bike setup (can only find 91-95 K&N)
modifying airbox

Running standard as of now but looking toward the future   :grin:

and any other ways you think i can impove the bandit
not on road so not in hurry

try to sort handling and tyres etc etc later on
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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2008, 10:56:56 AM »
Factory pro
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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2008, 05:02:50 PM »
Hay guys the VV's are a mine field!!! the early ones got same carbs as the jap spec non VV 102.5 mains but have a throttle sensor on the right side (red,green,black wires) later ones 90 mains. the Valve mech operates between 8000 n 10000rpm this varies between bikes,mine about 10000, you should clearly hear the actuator work. The top end cam has the same profile as the nonV and its the low cam that fills the bottom end out making the VV quick off the mark, you cannot tune the cam profile as they are tied into each other and the ignitor unit switchin between the two,where as you can tune the nonV much easier,you can slot the cam sprokets tho and play about that way.Ive got an early M model, this has VValves on the inlet and exhaust cams, other models only have a variable inlet cam. If you are going to do valve adjustment be very carful as you have to adjust the valves for low side clearance, high side clearence and sub rocker arm adjustment(this is the clearance between high and low followers) and these adjustments must be within 0.05mm of each other!!!!!!!!! i think there is 24 adjustments for each cam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. The standard exhaust is restrictive, bad welds at the top(inside) and there is a steel inner pipe within the 2inch collector, this tyers and suspension are the best way to make em quicker. mine made 58bhp with a race can on but with the big bore, head flow and full system makes 65 true bhp but runs on superunleaded,story is if you working on your own bike you need to get as much info on that model and most jap imports VV's did'nt get serviced by the importer cuz they did'nt know how!!!

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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2008, 05:57:09 PM »
I want to see the dyno chart
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2008, 06:10:40 PM »
Will do Jay, i got print outs frm the dyno shop, will lend scanner frm bro then put it on for you m8, you will also be able to see how the low cam fills out the bottom end.

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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2008, 06:12:29 PM »
yours is not restricted goes by the 112
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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2008, 06:21:51 PM »
Soz m8 not sure what ya mean please expand.

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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2008, 11:14:09 PM »
your bike is derestricted right?
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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2008, 05:31:19 PM »
yer Jay its full power, originally just the resistor across the gear wire/sidestand wire carnt remember which! but now got a Daytona electronic thingy fro Japan that connects into the Variable valve system, it deresricts the motor and also alters the timing of the ignition and the time at which the VV switches, its pritty cool as the box fits on your top yoke and can be switched on and off. Does anyone know if you can get the 33mm carbs to fit the VV?

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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2008, 07:05:38 PM »
what resistor did you use?

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Re: Bandit 400 Variable Valve motor owners discussions!
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2008, 12:06:28 AM »
Sounds like the box i sold mike...
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