Author Topic: A moment to vent (Read 3133 times)

duane · « **on:** February 25, 2006, 02:04:11 AM »

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Damn!! I just spent $9.59 per spark plug for the little Bandit. Nine-freakin-fifty-nine!! What the!? I know, no one was holding a gun to my head, I bought them with my own free will, but I remember buying Champion plugs for my Yamaha xs1100 and they were only a little more than $2.00. And that bike ran great with those cheap plugs!

NGK cr8ek (for the Bandit)
At Denis Kirk online they are $8.20 each.
At Bike Bandit they are $7.38 each but you have to buy a minimum of 10.
Parts 411 has them for $7.13.

So If I did buy these online, shipping would be about $5, that's only a few bucks cheaper than what I paid at Cycle Gear. Cycle Gear is expensive and these plugs are expensive.
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Thank you. Any one else bothered by something?

Nacho2059 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2006, 03:30:56 AM »

If I remeber correctly you can run the ngk plugs with the one electrode rather than droping the $9.59 per plug for the 2 electrode plugs. You can use CR8E plug rather than the CR8EK. Both plugs are 10mm with 3/4" reach and 5/8" hex. Plus the CR8E plugs are about $15 for four.
Correct me if I am wrong about this everyone.

PitterB4 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2006, 08:49:24 AM »

^^^ That's what I do, on Jay's (GSXR400Racer) suggestion. Champion or Autolite also makes a plug that works, I think. I don't know of anyone who has tried them.

Red01 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2006, 10:53:52 AM »

I've been running the Autolite plugs for my B12 since the factory original came out. The third set will be going in soon. The B12 uses a different plug than the B4 though.

PitterB4 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2006, 12:01:30 PM »

Yeah - what I meant is that I don't know of anyone doing it with a B4.

Here's a link to a chart Pete put together. The B4 table isn't totally correct since the 93 uses a cr9ek. I'm not sure what the AL or Champ equiv to that is.

duane · « **Reply #5 on:** February 26, 2006, 10:09:06 PM »

Whoa.....whoa.... what?

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The B4 table isn't totally correct since the 93 uses a cr9ek

Do you mean, "Uses a cr9ek AS WELL" or "Uses a cr9ek INSTEAD OF"?

I've already put the cr8ek in my '93 bike but haven't started it yet. When I do start it, the piston's not going to reach top dead center and crack itself against the plug or something, is it? (I'm being a little dramatic, but you know what I mean.)

PitterB4 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 26, 2006, 10:23:17 PM »

Well, I mean "instead of". It's not a huge deal though, I don't think (anyone else feel free to chime in). The number is the temperature of the plug - everything else is the same. The timing of the 93 is slightly different and it calls for a cooler plug (again, correct me if that's not exaclty the reason). I do know the 8 is one step hotter than the 9. I ran 8s in my 93 for at least 6k before I realized it. There were 8s in when I got it.

If you look in the 93 update section of the manual, it's noted there (along with the different valve clearances and so forth).

Thief400 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 26, 2006, 10:56:37 PM »

Here's a bit of wisdom given to me by an employee of Dana who owns Champion Spark plugs. In his southern accent and I quote" I wouldn't screw those" meaning Champion " into the ground let alone any engine I owned and I can get them for free"!

Herr Tod · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2006, 11:04:38 AM »

NGK or Denso, two proven brands.