Author Topic: Needle Shims (Read 15243 times)

Bazza · « **Reply #30 on:** December 22, 2006, 01:24:33 AM »

To tell you the truth, I gained nothing in MPG by placing the needle clip on the 2nd position versus the 3rd with Ivan's needles. (Remember they have a larger taper to them than the stock needles). In fact the bike would not run well on the 2nd clip position. I would have had to close up some of the airbox holes to get it to run well in midrange.

snofrog · « **Reply #31 on:** December 22, 2006, 04:44:02 AM »

Bazza you have a second gen ?

Bazza · « **Reply #32 on:** December 22, 2006, 05:07:28 PM »

Hey Snofrog:

Yes, it is a 2002.

Now getting back to my Ivan's jet kit settings, I should add that I live in a pretty uniqe climate. At 2200 feet above sea level, the air is cool & dry here & humidity changes in a moments notice. Both Dale & Ivan do their tuning on the coast, near sea level, so their results and people that live here vary somewhat to say the least.

I used to get around 50 MPG (Imperial gallons) with the stock Bandit. I get an average of around 36-38 MPG with the Jet kit (on the middle clip setting) and the best I ever did on the 2nd clip was 39 MPG. I had a very bad stumble on the mid range at this setting.

Rocketjock · « **Reply #33 on:** December 23, 2006, 09:14:57 PM »

It's funny hearing you guys talk about MPGs. My one ton work truck takes between $120 and $150 a fill. I dare not even try to figure out the gas milage. I just charge the customer for it. My new B12 Bandit gets about 350 odd Kms per tank at around $25. Keeping things in perspective I will never complain about the bikes' gas milage.
Bazza...waddya know about Dynajet carb kits? My dealer can get me one for $109.

Bazza · « **Reply #34 on:** December 24, 2006, 04:18:42 PM »

Hey Rocket:

I have had no experiance with Dynojet kits, but others on here have struggled with them.

The only time I have been concerned about mileage is on long trips. That flashing light comes on a little too soon on some roads I ride.

notagix · « **Reply #35 on:** December 25, 2006, 12:37:16 PM »

I tried a dyno jet kit, it worked Ok but the mileage sucked! I have a Hindle slip on, K&N filter and the snorkel removed, with 3 shims on the stock needles and 112.5 mains it runs at 14.7 AFR at 110 KPH cruise and 11.5 (way rich) WOT. I could not get rid of the stumble when I cracked the throttle with the dynojet kit. Now it runs perfect about 53 MPG at 110 KPH.

Bazza · « **Reply #36 on:** December 26, 2006, 10:40:46 PM »

Notagix:

Did you do any airbox mods?

notagix · « **Reply #37 on:** December 27, 2006, 11:28:55 PM »

Well I tried drilling holes in the airbox but ended up duct taping the holes up again because I couldn't get rid of the stumble when I cracked the throttle so I just have the snorkel out. I have an LM-1 AFR gauge and it was going too lean! I tried a few different combos but just went back to the stock needles with shims.

Bazza · « **Reply #38 on:** December 28, 2006, 05:00:44 PM »

The reason I asked was that with my Bandit I have been running 112.5 mains & have 20 3/8" holes in the airbox. Mine is not running lean at all, but also have Ivan's needles in mine also.

Rocketjock · « **Reply #39 on:** January 10, 2007, 12:00:03 PM »

Think I'm goin with Ivan's kit. But like he advertises, I'm gonna call him first and see what he recommends.