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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2012, 08:33:19 PM »
Do you have stainless steel hex bolts or the soft brass screws on there? I find when I put the stainless steel hex bolts I could get a little more purchase on the bolts and could tighten them a little more without wrecking them.
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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #121 on: February 23, 2012, 08:38:21 PM »
SS I got them pretty tight for the size they are, having them apart for a while dryed the the oring so hopefully they will swell.

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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #122 on: February 24, 2012, 05:55:30 PM »
Is possible it's cold and dry in the winter time, which doesn't do them any favours.
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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #123 on: February 25, 2012, 01:33:14 PM »
Ya thats very possible im just guna leave it and see what happens when I ride for a longer period of time. Its not bad but can see alittle gas on the bottoms of the bowls.

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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #124 on: February 25, 2012, 02:38:13 PM »
Where the drain plug spigots are? Maybe take a philips and make sure the drain plug screws are snug.
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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #125 on: February 25, 2012, 03:16:26 PM »
Ya thats the first thing I did, I checked everything under to see if anything was loose.

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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #126 on: February 26, 2012, 10:39:17 AM »
Ok then you're good, wait until maybe spring or summer then see. If your petcock is working well the most that can spill out is what's in the fuel line and in the bowls. So don't sweat it 'till then.
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2005 Bandit 1200, Modified Holeshot Stage 1 with 17.5 pilots 2.75 turns out, and 110 mains 5 shims. Muzzy Slip on w/mid-pipe, stock filter. 1.5" hole in the airbox lid.

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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #127 on: February 27, 2012, 06:28:41 PM »
This is kinda bugging me!! You think if I put some heat to it with a hair dryer that will do it??

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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #128 on: February 27, 2012, 08:20:08 PM »
I'm not sure gasoline and heat would be a good idea....How bad are they leaking you could always just order new gaskets from www.bikebandit.com.
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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #129 on: February 27, 2012, 08:25:51 PM »
Ya I suppose if the dam hair dryer would spark Id have problems LOL. Its just wet alittle not to bad, I just hate leaving something unfinished.

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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #130 on: February 27, 2012, 10:21:48 PM »
I'm with 123 here, with ANY fuel leak, you need to find the source of the leak and fix it.

I know it's a pain but likely take the carb bowls off again and either replace the bowl o-ring/gasket, or clean them up and add some gasket sealant on reassembly.
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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #131 on: February 27, 2012, 11:16:09 PM »
See if you can find out which one is leaking, if your lucky it may be an outside carb and it would literally take like 10 minutes to change. It may not be as bad as you think. Maybe for fun scrunch up some paper towel and put them on each of the bowls with something easy to take off like masking tape. That way it will be super easy to figure out which one is the culprit from the wetness of the paper towel.

Put the bike on the centre stand in case it's number 3 or 4 carb as the leak would just wick down the carb bank on the side stand and you might be replacing a gasket for no reason
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2005 Bandit 1200, Modified Holeshot Stage 1 with 17.5 pilots 2.75 turns out, and 110 mains 5 shims. Muzzy Slip on w/mid-pipe, stock filter. 1.5" hole in the airbox lid.

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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #132 on: February 28, 2012, 02:50:51 AM »
And before you actually pull the carbs, make sure it not running down from a leaking fuel line or connection!  :duh:
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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #133 on: March 10, 2012, 04:13:53 PM »
Everything is cool now, they swelled up no more gas leak. Ive built a couple race bikes and work on my own everything under the tank is probibly over kill with hose clamps doubled with zipties. I knew for from the start it was the bowl gaskets and off to the real topic-- Took my bike out today, temp was 58 and this thing feels like a different bike when adjusted right. Still got to sync the carbs witch I think will smooth everything out but she runs pretty dam good!! Thanks again rider!!!! :motorsmile: :beers:

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Re: Poor Mans Stage 1 kit
« Reply #134 on: March 11, 2012, 06:29:08 PM »
Yeah no problem! I just finished up today with a poor man sync and my bike is running awesome now that I got rid of those 17.5 pilots and went up to 112.5 mains. It's almost uncontrollable. I'm afraid to go past half throttle under 3rd gear it keeps lifting up. :grin: I just did a poor man's sync today as it was 15C out today but I couldn't get that damn number 2 vacuum nipple, I've built extenders for carbs 1 and 3 and have one for 2 but I can't get in there without taking the damn carbs off. I'm going to go to my friends bike shop next weekend so we can get some real tools in there and see if it can't be done. I'm not sure WTF Suzuki was thinking. I guess the drunk guy at the factory was like "Oh yeah bike owners love to take the entire bike apart to do a simple carb sync!" I almost wished they stuck with the RF900 carbs the gen 1 uses with the vacuum nipples nicely situated on top of the carbs so you can actually reach them. As it stands now 3 and 4 are spot on and number 1 is synced with 3 and 4 so it's close but I can tell that number 2 needs some lovin' as I can artificially make it idle slightly smoother by turning the mixture screw in to starve it a bit of fuel so I can tell it's running slightly hotter than number 1. Still pretty good though. I wish I thought of the extenders when I had the carbs off, I guess I was thinking more about jetting then convenience at the time.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2012, 06:33:43 PM by rider123 »
2005 Bandit 1200, Modified Holeshot Stage 1 with 17.5 pilots 2.75 turns out, and 110 mains 5 shims. Muzzy Slip on w/mid-pipe, stock filter. 1.5" hole in the airbox lid.